In Defense of Snape (long)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Jan 17 17:05:21 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 122176
Naama:
. Phineas Nigellus is obviously in the habit of behaving in the
> annoying way he has - Sirius isn't.
Pippin:
Except with Kreacher, who was "a living reminder of the home he
hated." You remember what Sirius's mum was like, don't you?
That's what Sirius grew up with, and IMO, it comes out when he
has to deal with people he dislikes, like Kreacher and Snape.
The culture of insult doesn't mean that Slytherins never insult
each other for other reasons, but it does mean that any Slytherin
could come up with insults without feeling deep-rooted hostility.
Snape doesn't have to hate Hermione to come up with the tooth
remark, and he and Sirius don't have to be mortal enemies to
get into that silly almost-duel.
Naama:
>
> Lily, at that point, did dislike James. Sirius and Lupin say as
much. Sirius certainly disliked Kreacher. "<snip>
>
> It leads to the same sort of arbitrariness in interpretation as
playacting!Snape. You apply it in order to undermine the straight
meaning of the text in one place, while leaveing other places
undisturbed. What's the criteria? <
Pippin:
You mean, there should be some kind of 'tell' that Snape is
acting? But it's the mark of a good actor that there aren't any! Did
you know that Quirrell was acting? Riddle? Fake!Moody? But
maybe we can find one...
Harry *does* have trouble telling the difference between dislike
and hatred, it's one of those subtle distinctions he's not good at.
Hagrid tells him that Snape doesn't hate him, Sirius tells him
that Lily didn't hate James, and Dumbledore tells him that Sirius
didn't hate Kreacher, though in each case there's obviously
dislike. JKR is clearly making some kind of a point here.
We do know that at least one of Snape's sneers is not prompted
by hatred. The sneer in Umbridge's office, which Harry
characterizes as 'usual' is only pretence. So, according to your
premise, that would make Snape's usual sneers pretence,
right?
Hmmm, interesting idea. I'm not sure I believe it, but let's try,
Kneasy-like, to see if we can make a theory out of it.
Given that Snape merely dislikes Harry, should he pretend to
hate him to further his masquerade? Wouldn't a loyal Death
Eater pretend to like him? That would be prudent, as Lucius
says. But the unreformed Snape, the one we saw in the
pensieve, who wore his heart on his sleeve and allowed
Voldemort access to his thoughts and feelings, would surely
have hated Harry with all his heart, and he would never have
been able to disguise it. And it was that rash hatred that enabled
Voldemort to control Snape, or so we must interpret what Snape
says.
Voldemort is paranoid; he trusts people only so far as he can
control them, so it would not be prudent for Spy!Snape to act as
though he had learned to restrain himself from hate. So even
though the loyal Death Eaters generally pretend to like Harry,
Snape, in pretending to be still a Death Eater, must pretend to
hate him.
Now, that doesn't mean that Snape *never* hates Harry. He
does, IMO, especially when Harry is being egregiously
James-like. But we should have a 'tell' for that, and I think we do.
Harry notes in his first potions class that Snape's eyes look like
cold, empty tunnels. But when he goes to confront whatever at
the end of GoF, they glitter. Suppose the empty look is
occlumency at work; Snape hiding whatever thoughts and
feelings would contradict the lie. The glitter is honest emotion.
So let's see:
Snape sneering at Harry's fame in Book One? No glitter. Potion
making ability? A random check of passages reveals no glitter,
just smirks and sneers, though it would be rash to say it never
happens without checking them all.
We get the glints and glitters when Snape accuses Harry of
being like his father, and when Snape is in the Shrieking Shack,
but *not* when he accuses Harry of helping Sirius escape. They
appear when Snape accuses Harry of invading his office but
*not* when he reads the Witch Weekly article, and interestingly,
not when Snape finds Harry in the pensieve . There's anger
there, definitely, but not hate, not if you believe the glitter clue.
Thoughts?
Pippin
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