Favorite Snape Scenes - He's such a lovely professor, no really.

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>>Betsy wrote:
>Proof that Snape is not a nice man and that he does favor his House. 
Something I stated in my very first post.

>>vmonte responds:
>Is this a sign of Snape being a good teacher and motivator? Or is 
this just a small excusable quirk he has. Poor Snape, lets give him a 
break kind of thing...<

Betsy:
It's a sign that Snape is not a nice man.  Umm.  Like I said.  Twenty 
billion times.
 
>>Betsy:
>I think Snape would agree with the "it's better to be feared than 
loved," philosophy of life. I'm not saying Snape is right but I don't 
see how this makes Snape evil.<
 
>>vmonte responds: Cruelty is evil.

Betsy:
So James and Sirius and Fred and George Weasley are evil then.

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>>Betsy:
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>Because, Snape actually does have Harry's safety at heart (something 
Crouch!Moody certainly does not). Though I do think that Snape does 
enjoy catching Harry out. It confirms all of Snape's worst 
expectations of Harry. I have never argued that Snape has warm and 
fuzzy thoughts towards Harry. But Snape doesn't want Harry dead.<
 
>>vmonte responds:
>You think so? I don't. If Snape had nothing to hide in this scene 
why did run with his tail between his legs--what a coward.<

Betsy:
Okay.  So you think Snape is still working for Voldemort and does 
want to kill Harry.  That clears some things up for me.  It's not a 
theory I subscribe too (obviously! <g>) but if Snape is the big 
villain for you, I'm not going to be able to change your mind.  All 
of Snape's actions will be tilted in a certain direction for you.  
We'll just have to wait until the final page of book 7 to see how 
things turn out. 

>>Betsy: 
>I wouldn't say Snape is showing the students he loathes them - he's 
telling them they'd better do their reading and they'd better pay 
attention... or else.<
 
>>vmonte responds:
>Wow, nice strategy. Dear Diary, Tomorrow is the first day of term. 
Note to self: Remember to humiliate children in class and show them 
who is boss. PS. Make sure to pick one or two out that you can 
continuously use throughout the year as whipping boys/girls.<

Betsy:
Yup, pretty much! :)
 
>>Betsy:
>Oh, Snape definitely favors the Slytherins. I've never argued that 
he doesn't. All I'm trying to say is this doesn't make him evil. 
Though I've also tried to show that he might have a hidden motive for 
giving the children of Death Eaters, like Draco Malfoy, an easy way 
of it.<
 
>>vmonte responds:
>Oh I see. If the Slytherins are coddled then they won't learn as 
much as the other students and this will lead to them not being 
recruitable Voldemort agents.<

Betsy:
Hee! Not a bad theory!   

>>vmonte: Teacher tip! Don't forget to threaten your student's pets 
and then deduct house points when their pet doesn't die...
<snip of infamous Trevor the Toad as lab rat scene>

>>Betsy:
>Like I said earlier, Snape is good at the motivating. And again, as 
you pointed out, no amphibian died in the making of this scene. (The 
points were clearly taken because Hermione and Neville cheated. In 
some schools such behavior can lead to expulsion.)
 
>>vmonte responds:
>Do you mean expulsion of the student or the teacher?<

Betsy:
In the schools I attended, if a student cheated, the student was 
usually the one held accountable.

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>>Betsy:
>I don't see any sign of racism in this scene, I'm sorry. Is it the 
werewolf comment? That doesn't strike me as racist. Snape thinks 
Lupin has betrayed Dumbledore and led Harry into a trap, as Snape was 
lead into a similar trap when he was a student. Snape was almost 
killed by Lupin at that time, so there's a reason for the distrust. I 
generally think of racism as illogical stereotyping.<
 
>>vmonte responds:
>This is your most upsetting comment BTW. What do you think a 
werewolf represents in JKR's world? Pick any derogatory name and 
insert it into where the word werewolf should be. How does it sound 
now? I think people should be called by their names don't you.
>How about if Snape had yelled out: Don't ask me to fathom the way 
Lupin's mind works," instead.<

Betsy:
Ah. Yes, Snape is rude to not refer to Lupin by his name.  Though the 
term "werewolf" is not actually a derogatory name.  Lupin *is* a 
werewolf. And when Lupin doesn't take his potion he will eat any 
little children that cross his path.  Which would make for a very bad 
teacher in my book.

Betsy