Favorite Snape Scenes - He's such a lovely professor, no really.

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>>Betsy:
>I think Snape does *not* think Harry is smart.  I think he thinks 
Harry acts with typical Gryffindor bravado and headstrong 
carelessness and that Harry has just scrapped through his various 
adventures by the skin of his teeth.<
 
>>Vivamus:
>I'll grant you that he does not think Harry is smart, but it seems 
to me more like intentional blindness than anything else.  Harry 
*did* get through that obstacle course protecting the stone, and 
that takes much more than stupid luck.<

Betsy:
I actually think Harry was *very* lucky to have gotten out of that 
particular adventure alive.  I also think he very nearly got 
Voldemort the stone and that his interfering very nearly screwed the 
pooch for all concerned.

See my post on this very subject: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/119865

>>Vivamus:
>He also found out where the entrance to the CoS is (when SS and 
everyone else could not,) and then he went down there, killed the 
basilisk, destroyed TR, and rescued Ginny.<

Betsy:
Harry did good here.  His one mistake was bringing bloody Lockhart 
(!?!) of all professors as back-up.  Something that would not have 
impressed Snape.  (Though the outcome for Lockhart probably pleased 
Snape immensely. <g>)

>>Vivamus:
>He also fought off a hundred dementors at once, with a Patronus 
more powerful than perhaps any but DD could have conjured.<

Betsy:
This was excellent work on Harry's part - but I think we'll all 
agree that Snape has some issues when it comes to this particular 
night.  So I don't think he'd give Harry his full due here.

>>Vivamus:
>He got through the tasks in GoF. 

Betsy:
Did he?  I seem to recall that Crouch!Moody held Harry's hand pretty 
much the whole way through.  About the only thing Harry did on his 
own was call his broom to him and show some excellent flying skills.

>>Betsy:
>There are definitely some "James issues" going on with Snape, but I 
don't think it colors his thinking as much as some think it does.  I 
think Snape is more interested in getting Harry to *think* and to 
actually *listen* to his elders, than in some school-boy vendetta.< 
 
>>Vivamus:
>Where is there canon for SS showing interest in getting Harry to 
think?  He insults and abuses him at every opportunity, but where is 
he trying to get Harry to think, or listen?  He berates him because 
he hasn't listened, but it seems to me that SS is the one not 
listening in those scenes, not Harry.<

Betsy:
I'm at work (hardly working. heh.) so I can't point to exact places 
in the books, but IIRC he berates Harry for taking unnecessary risks 
(I'm thinking of the sneaking into Hogsmeade in POA), which would 
involve thinking.  I agree that Snapes methods don't work with 
Harry.  But I'm interested (in this particular discussion) in what 
Snape is *trying* to accomplish, rather than what he actually does 
accomplish.  If that makes sense. 

>>Betsy:
>The fasinating thing for me is how *alike* Snape and Harry actually 
are.  Harry has much more in common with Snape than James... <snip>
 
>>Vivamus:
>Interesting idea.  I think I'll stick with the traditional view 
that he is much more like James -- and that James was both an 
obnoxious jerk some of the time (as SS saw him) and a really good 
man most of the time (as most others saw him.)<

Betsy:
James was a golden boy - very extroverted, the king of his school.  
He loved pulling attention to himself.  Harry is nothing like this.  
He'd much prefer to sit in the background and not be the center of 
attention.  Harry looks like James, has his flying skills (tweaked a 
bit though - wasn't James a chaser?), and his bravery.  But not his 
personality.

Betsy