Snape at Godric's Hollow

esmith222002 c.john at imperial.ac.uk
Thu Jan 20 10:44:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122477


Potioncat:
> I don't follow your theory about separating from the Patronus.  
> Could you elaborate, and provide the canon?
> 
>  I think JKR  has said that the trio will not become animagi, so 
> being able to summon a Patronus does not mean a wizard can become 
an 
> animagi. Also, Snape did not learn about the Marauders' Animagi 
> until PoA, so that would not have been a motivating factor in his 
> younger days (I once came up with that motivation too.)

OK, I'll admit that a lot of this is speculative, but I will try and 
link it to canon where possible - no matter how tenuous the link!!

The seperation from one's Patronus is not supported by canon, but 
comes from the books by Philip Pullman who JKR has previously 
admitted she admires! (List elves - I promise this digression will be 
brief!!). In his books, there are alternate dimensions, and in one of 
these everyone has a 'daemon' that is somehow physically and 
psychologically connected to the person. Seperating the two, is 
possible but extremely dangerous. I have always wondered if it is 
possible to seperate from your patronus, which would retain some of 
your spirit. This may be how LV survived! Just a theory!!

As for Snape's knowledge of the marauder's animagi capabilities - We 
know that the Marauder's became Animagi to control Lupin in Werewolf 
form. Therefore, if James saved Snape from Lupin, does it not follow 
that he would have been the stag at this moment. I am sure that it 
can't simply have been James telling Snape not to go down the tunnel. 
I'm not sure Snape would regard that as saving his life. I think 
James had to rescue Snape from immediate danger - i.e. he was the 
stag to defend Snape from Lupin thus revealing himself to Snape. I'm 
sure that would then be a powerful motivation for Snape to become an 
animagi to prove he was just as capable.
> 
> Potioncat:
> I have no strong opinion at all whether Snape was at GH.  But what 
> do you base your idea on that it was that night that Snape changed 
> sides?  It's an interesting idea, I'm just not convinced canon 
> supports it.

I have no direct canon for this either (sorry). However, we do know 
that Snape placed 3 memories in the Pensieve. I am sure that the 
third memory is exactly why Snape changed sides.  Also, the only new 
peice of info from Snape's second memory is that Lily had tried to 
help Snape. From JKR, we know that the events at Godric's Hollow are 
very important to the story. I am sure that Snape plays some vital 
role in all of this - and I think it involves Lily. I need to look 
back and see if there is any canon for Snape's presence in the order 
prior to LV's fall (other than any comments from DD). This may add 
weight to the theory - if there is no evidence that Snape was in the 
order prior to GH.

Brothergib (who promises to look for some canon tonight!!)







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