Imperius Resistance and Occlumency was Harry's anger (was Re: Draco's anger.)

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 22 04:40:29 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122674


>>festuco wrote:
>peeping into the pensieve does not help Harry at all in mastering 
Oclumency.<

>>Eggplant: 
>It will if his opponent is Snape, a few comments reminding him of 
the incident, say a crack about his dirty underpants, should break 
his concentration.<

Betsy:
So I just want to be clear, Eggplant, you feel that Snape is Harry's 
enemy - not Voldemort, and that therefore the entire reason for the 
Occlumency lessons was for Harry to figure out a way to defeat 
Snape?  Also, after Snape has gained control of Harry's mind (easily 
done because Harry refused to learn how to keep an unwanted intruder 
*out* of his mind) how exactly was Harry supposed to make a crack 
about dirty underpants?

>>festuco (I think?):    
>It is even explained to him by Snape, that LV might try to influence 
his mind.<

>>Eggplant:
>Harry already knew that, but he couldn't see the urgency and at the 
time neither could we the readers because as Harry said it may not be 
much fun but without it Mr. Weasley would be dead. Nobody explained 
exactly why it was important, they just said it was.<

Betsy:
You may speak for yourself, but this particular reader thought Harry 
was being a complete dumb-ass thinking that he could match wits with 
a powerful wizard like Voldemort.  Dumbledore's worry and Snape's 
worry had me convinced from the get go.

>>festuco (again, I think): 
>he is lured to the Department of Mysteries, and Sirius dies. Maybe 
this still would have happened if he had practiced, but then at least 
he would have had the consolation for himself that he had tried.<

>>Eggplant:
>And maybe he would have been even weaker if he had practiced. Harry 
complained up to the last page of the book that Snape's lessons make 
him weaker not stronger but nobody pays the slightest attention. So 
let's review, the lessons are very unpleasant, no clear reason is 
explained why its important to learn the subject, he doesn't trust 
his teacher and his lessons make him weak. I wouldn't work very hard 
under those circumstances either, would you?<

Betsy:
How about this review: You're number one on the hit list of the most 
powerful dark wizard around.  Everyone and their house elf flinches 
at the man's *name* and he's got link into your *mind*.  You're 
offered lessons that could help you regain control of your own head, 
and the most powerful light wizard tells you that it is *imperative* 
you learn this skill.  You decide that you'd rather figure out what's 
behind door number 2.  How is this the fault of your teacher, again?

Betsy







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