Why should Harry be expected to listen to anyone at Hogwarts?

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 22 23:59:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122731



Lupinlore:
There has been a huge discussion about Harry and whether or not he
should trust Snape.  My question is why on earth would Harry trust 
any of the staff at Hogwarts?  Because they are teachers and he is a
student?  That is balderdash and reprehensible balderdash at that. 
Were  Harry my son I would be praising him to the skies every 
summer for refusal to place trust where trust has not been earned.  
It is the responsibility of the teacher to prove themselves worthy 
of trust and respect, not the responsibility of the student to 
respect someone just because they managed to wangle a job out of 
some Board of Trustees.
 
Tonks now:
I totally disagree. A teacher or anyone in a position to be one's 
superior is to be treated with the respect afforded their office. If 
a parent has a problem with a teacher they have the right to be 
heard. And if there is justification, the teacher can be let go. But 
a CHILD is to be respectful to every adult simply because they are 
an adult. And to a teacher because they are the child's superior. 
They do not have to like the teacher, and they do not have to think 
that the teacher knows best, they just have to treat the teacher 
with respect. In a civilized society that is what people do!!! 
Haven't we all had this arguement before?


Alla:

Sorry, Tonks, , I am with Lupinlore. Harry has no parents, therefore 
he cannot complain to them about abusive teacher

If adults  don't care much about his emotional and physical well 
being, Harry should protect his own interests, if there is no one to 
interfere on his behalf, IMO.

Respect to the teacher, who mistreats him. Why? Simply because he 
calls himself a "teacher". I say it is not enough to respect him.


Lupinlore said:
Who has earned Harry's trust (in terms of staff)?   Certainly not
McGonagall, who shows herself time and again to be incompetent at
securing fair treatment for him (Snip) And yes, it IS McGonagall's 
job to secure justice for Harry in these situations.  This is 
especially the case in that Harry has no parents to intercede for 
him independently.  Certainly Harry cannot trust Snape, and 
DEFINITELY not Dumbledore, whose sins against Harry are so numerous 
that they can't be numbered. (SNIP)


Tonks now:
McGonagall is Harry's teacher, not his parent. Yes, he has no 
parents, but things are tough all over. She is not his parent and it 
is not her job. Her job is to teach and as Head of House to make 
sure that the students are safe and well behaved.

Alla:
Let me ask you a question. WHOSE job is it to protect Harry from 
unfairness? Because I thought that if child is an orphan, the job of 
his Head of the House is more than just to teach him.


Tonks:
As to the comment about Dumbledore... I am with Hagrid. My wand is 
out and pointed toward you >>>>  Never insult Albus Dumbledore in my 
presence!!!!!


Alla:

As I said earlier today, when I am in the good mood, I can be 
forgiving towards Dumbledore, because he (contrary to Snape) seems 
to be sorry at the end of OOP, but I absolutely agree with Lupinlore 
that Dumbledore's sins against Harry are numerous.



Just my opinion,

Alla







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