Imperius Resistance and Occlumency -THE REAL STORY

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 23 05:53:19 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122748


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Betsy:
> I'm not sure I understand this, are you saying that if Harry sees 
> someone murdered, his emotional reaction to that would somehow 
give Voldemort power?  Because Harry did see Cedric murdered and 
during the battle at the MoM I don't think that memory was ever 
called up.

Tonks now:
No, that is not what I am saying at all. I am saying that LV uses 
other people to do his killing most of the time. That Snape has 
probably killed before. That LV uses the negative emotions of others 
toward his own ends. And in the case of Snape not overcoming his 
intense rage at James, this opens Harry to danger in the Occlumency 
lessons. And this is why Snape puts the memory in the pensive.
> 
> Betsy:
> Actually, I'd say that Snape in definitely *not* the master of 
> control and non-emotion when anything regarding the Mauraders 
comes up.  Look at his reactions in the Shrieking Shack at the end 
of PoA.  Snape was almost pure emotion at that point.
> 

Tonks now:
That is what I am trying to say. Snape is only emotional when 
anything to do with the Maureders comes up. This is Snape's 
weakness. And LV uses a person's weakness, and works through it. 
That is why Snape had to put that memory in the pensive. He did it 
to protect Harry.

> 
> Betsy:
> Again I'm not clear on what you're saying here. (I'm really sorry, 
> I'm not trying to be difficult!) Are you saying that Voldemort 
could  use the negative emotions of Snape to control him and sort of 
set him loose on Harry?


Tonks now:

Yes. LV would use Snape to kill Harry. Look at what Snape did when 
he saw Harry looking in the pensive. Snape lost his cool. LV would 
have looked through Harry into Snape, triggered Snape's rage and 
Harry would have been in very serious danger. Snape knew this. Snape 
knew his weakness and how the Dark Lord could use it. So he put this 
weak part into the pensive to protect Harry during the session. Most 
of the time Snape IS in control of his emotions, but not when 
thoughts of James come up. And Snape is wise to know this and to 
take the necessary steps to protect Harry during the sessions.


> 
> Betsy:
> I tend to think that Snape is not at risk to going back to 
> Voldemort.  Dumbledore is so incredibly confident in Snape that I 
> think there most be some majorly compelling reason Snape changed 
> sides.  I think that once we learn that reason (and I hope we do) 
> we'll have a new outlook on Snape and also recognize that Snape is 
> permanently on the right side.
>
I do wonder why Dumbledore doesn't want Snape to be the DADA 
> professor. And I'm sure it's a good reason. But I don't think it's 
> because he's worried Snape will go back to Voldemort.  If that was 
a  real worry, Snape would not be so highly ranked in the Order.  In 
my opinion anyway.
> 

Tonks here:

Yes, but DD thought that Snape could put aside his feels about James 
and DD was wrong. I assume that Snape when to DD and told him about 
the sessions and why they had to end, and DD understood. Snape can't 
set his feelings about James aside, at least not yet. This doesn't 
mean that Snape will go back to LV. It only means that there is a 
weakness that Snape must overcome within himself. And his failure to 
do so leaves a door open for LV.

Tonks_op







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