[HPforGrownups] Re: Why should Harry be expected to listen to anyone at H...

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Sun Jan 23 00:19:45 UTC 2005


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Lupinlore:
There has been a huge discussion about Harry and whether or  not he
should trust Snape.  My question is why on earth would Harry  trust 
any of the staff at Hogwarts?  Because they are teachers and he  is a
student?  That is balderdash and reprehensible balderdash at that.  
Were  Harry my son I would be praising him to the skies every  
summer for refusal to place trust where trust has not been earned.   
It is the responsibility of the teacher to prove themselves worthy 
of  trust and respect, not the responsibility of the student to 
respect someone  just because they managed to wangle a job out of 
some Board of  Trustees.

Tonks now:
I totally disagree. A teacher or anyone in a  position to be one's 
superior is to be treated with the respect afforded  their office. If 
a parent has a problem with a teacher they have the right  to be 
heard. And if there is justification, the teacher can be let go. But  
a CHILD is to be respectful to every adult simply because they are 
an  adult. And to a teacher because they are the child's superior. 
They do not  have to like the teacher, and they do not have to think 
that the teacher  knows best, they just have to treat the teacher 
with respect. In a civilized  society that is what people do!!! 
Haven't we all had this arguement  before?

Kaylee Tonks-Lupin stepping in: 
 
Eh...okay. I agree with some points from both of you. Yes, adults are to be  
respected by children, Tonks. But...Harry has good reason not to show respect  
for anyone who mistreats him, like Snape and the Dursleys. So...mainly in  
agreement with Lupinlore here.
 

Lupinlore said:
Who has earned Harry's trust (in terms of  staff)?   Certainly not
McGonagall, who shows herself time and  again to be incompetent at
securing fair treatment for him (Snip) And yes, it  IS McGonagall's 
job to secure justice for Harry in these situations.   This is 
especially the case in that Harry has no parents to intercede for  
him independently.  Certainly Harry cannot trust Snape, and  
DEFINITELY not Dumbledore, whose sins against Harry are so numerous 
that  they can't be numbered. (SNIP)


Tonks now:
McGonagall is Harry's  teacher, not his parent. Yes, he has no 
parents, but things are tough all  over. She is not his parent and it 
is not her job. Her job is to teach and  as Head of House to make 
sure that the students are safe and well  behaved.
 
Kaylee here: 
 
McGonagall IS Harry's teacher...BUT he does not have a parent. I think, in  
her heart, McGonagall feels more for Harry than she can show. After all, who 
was  it that crossed Dumbledore that first night in PS/SS?


Tonks:
As to  the comment about Dumbledore... I am with Hagrid. My wand is 
out and pointed  toward you >>>>  Never insult Albus Dumbledore in my  
presence!!!!!
 
Kaylee here: Oh, yeah, me too. Never insult Dumbledore here with me.
 
Kaylee Lupin, signing off!



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