Occlumency -THE REAL STORY

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 122869


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> 
> Julie wrote:
> I hadn't thought of it this way, but it could explain one thing
> that bothered me about Snape's reaction. WHY was he so angry
> that Harry saw this scene of the Marauders bullying him? Yes,
> Snape didn't come off too well, but James and Sirius come off
> much worse. 

Valky:
But I really don't Snape would be able to see it that way.
In Snapes eyes Harry is just like his father. Hence Sevvie would 
assume that Harry found the whole scenario as amusing as James did. 

Come to think of it, in *that* light the verbal battering Lily gave 
James looks entirely like it's inconsequential to Snape. Either 
Snape has forgotten that part of the memory or he really doesn't 
care one way or the other what kind of person Lily was. Sevvie only 
reacts to Harry seeing his father's besting and humiliation of him.



Julie:
> Snape already taunted Harry about James not
> being the wonderful person Harry imagines. Why not use this
> scene to drive that nail in deeper? You'd think Snape would feel
> immense satisfaction at Harry having to face the "truth" about
> James, given Snape's feelings. Instead Snape is furious. But
> is he furious that Harry witnessed his humiliation, or furious
> that Harry's action may have put both their lives further at risk?
> 

Valky:
You make a good point, and I concede fully that Tonks may be right 
on this one. With the exception of one thing, the scenario 
contradicts itself. First, Sevvie is so emotionally weakened by his 
memory of the marauders his inability to deal with it rationally 
makes him vulnerable to Voldemort in Harry, then in the same 
sentence we are saying that Snape is so mature and rational about 
these memories he can invoke the foresight to remove them in front 
of Voldemort in Harry. Contradiction. 

The most likely scenario is that Dumbledore warned Snape to remove 
the painful memories to protect him and Harry. For me that works and 
also it means that Harry was right and it *was* DD's pensieve.



> vmonte said:
> Is it possible that Snape was already aware that the maurauders 
were animagi? 


Valky:
Definitely not. He didn't know who the black dog sitting at Harry's 
feet was at the end of GOF.


vmonte:
> Because he doesn't want Dumbledore to know that he was already 
aware of the marauders. And this is why he tells Harry to keep his 
mouth shut.
> 

Valky:
To be honest, I think he told Harry to keep his mouth shut because 
he believes that Harry will lark fun at him about it, in public, 
like his father did thereby undermining the scary composed image 
Sevvie has carefully built himself in the years since.
It's a simple case of mistaken identity, IMO.