[HPforGrownups] Re: Time Turner...(TT during PoA)

[TrekkieGrrrl]

No: HPFGUIDX 122891


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From: "vmonte" <vmonte at yahoo.com>
To: <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Time Turner...(TT during PoA)


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> Sandra wrote:
>
> However, the natural course is ignored by JKR. It never happens
> because the 'future' Harry interferes by going back in time and
> stopping the Dementors and the story carries on along the new Time
> Line B. But how? JKR seems to have completely skipped over a very
> simple principle, ie if the Dementors had never been forced away by
> the 'future' Harry, the 'future' Harry would have never been in a
> position where he could go back and force them away.
>
> vmonte responds:
>
> There are several theories regarding what happened in PoA. I know
> about two. In one version Dumbledore saves Harry the first time
> around, then sends Harry the second time around to save himself.
>
> The second theory is that time-line A never happened because Harry
> had always saved himself; which means that time is not as rigid and
> linear as we believe.  This second version is difficult to
> understand, but you can use the same principle to explain Hermione's
> warning about wizards that have killed their past and or future
> selves. Logically killing your past self would make no sense right?
> How would you get to the future/present if you killed your past self?
> Apparently in JKR's world, these things are somehow possible because
> she says so, and applying any logic to the situation will fail.
>
TrekkieGrrrl tries to understand the timeline problems:

Isn't the point that timeline B isn't created until you make a timejump, 
thereby disturbing Timeline A?

So if timeline A lets you be, say 50 years old and you then jump back to 
when you are20 and kill yourself, you are not creating THAT timeline until 
that very point. So we actually have branching timelines. Not as much the 
"All Good Things" scenario, but more like the Star Trek NG episode "Cause 
and Effect" where Worf encounters several timelines AT THE SAME TIME. - all 
branching from the same moment where he meets an anomaly. In HP the anomaly 
is created by the use of a Time Turner but the result is the same. And if 
Harry and Hermione had each their timeturner they could have left Timeline A 
and created both Timeline B and C, as they would have each their timeline, 
branching from timeline A, but what Harry did to Hermione in Timeline B 
wouldn't affect Timeline C and vice versa.

Gah. Now my head spins.

~TrekkieGrrrl
(who loves timetravel stories)