Imperius Resistance and Occlumency, was Harry's anger (was Re: Draco's anger.)
dumbledore11214
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Mon Jan 24 23:50:34 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 122927
Amanda wrote:
I am away from my books at the moment, and cannot give an exact
quote, but I think what Phineas Nigellus tells Harry is quite apropos
to Eggplant's interpretation of Harry's attitude. Phineas points out
that Dumbledore may well not share every reason for every decision
with Harry. And I will add that he has no reason to. It is not
incumbent upon Dumbledore to obtain Harry's approval, or to ensure
Harry's understanding. It is incumbent upon Dumbledore, as a general
in this struggle, to issue clear direction. And he has done so.
Alla:
I'd like to disagree with this statement very strongly. IF Harry was
just the usual, potential member of the resistance, I may have agreed
with you, but without Harry (at least how it seems now) all
Dumbledore plans worth... I would say nothing. Harry IS Dumbledore's
weapon in fight against Voldemort. But he is also a person who
deserves at least to know what awaist him in the future.
So yes, I would say if Dumbledore has a bit of morality in himself (
and I think he does), Dumbledore has a reason to share significantly
more with Harry than he previously did, IF he wants Harry to fight
for him and whole WW. Moreover, I think he OWES Harry to share things
with him.
Somebody said that in HBP we will have a rift between Dumbledore and
Harry. I personally hope so very much, because I think that if Harry
forgives Dumbledore right away it would not be realistic.
Amanda:
snip.
And Dumbledore, as an authority figure, *must* be able to trust Harry
to do his bidding even if the reasons don't seem good to Harry's more
limited understanding.
Alla:
Why?
Amanda:
No, not surprised. But I am surprised that Harry is immature enough
to put things in such a personal, childish, Harry-centric frame when
he should clearly understand that Dumbledore and most of the adults
he is in contact with are involved in a huge struggle for the safety
of the wizarding world. He makes himself an obstruction, rather than
trying to honestly understand and rise to the challenge.
Alla:
Again, without Harry their struggle will not be very succesful.
Amanda:
Aw. Poor baby. I think Harry limited himself in his working with
Snape, because of his persistence in thinking there is some bizarre
power struggle happening. Snape is a grown man with better things to
do; he throws the occasional snide comment, but if he wanted to harm
Harry, Harry would be significantly harmed already.
Alla:
When you said "poor baby", I thought at first you were talking about
Snape. :o) I think that he harmed Harry many times already,
personally. And sorry, but judging by Snape/Harry interactions, Snape
does not remind me of grown man much.
Just my opinion of course,
Alla
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