Imperius Resistance and Occlumency, was Harry's anger (was Re: Draco's anger.)

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 24 23:50:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 122927



Amanda wrote:
I am away from my books at the moment, and cannot give an exact 
quote, but I think what Phineas Nigellus tells Harry is quite apropos 
to Eggplant's interpretation of Harry's attitude. Phineas points out 
that Dumbledore may well not share every reason for every decision 
with Harry. And I will add that he has no reason to. It is not 
incumbent upon Dumbledore to obtain Harry's approval, or to ensure 
Harry's understanding. It is incumbent upon Dumbledore, as a general 
in this struggle, to issue clear direction. And he has done so. 

Alla:

I'd like to disagree with this statement very strongly. IF Harry was 
just the usual, potential member of the resistance, I may have agreed 
with you, but without Harry (at least how it seems now) all 
Dumbledore plans worth... I would say nothing. Harry IS Dumbledore's 
weapon in fight against Voldemort. But he is also a person who 
deserves at least to know what awaist him in the future.

So yes, I would say if Dumbledore has a bit of morality in himself ( 
and I think he does), Dumbledore has a reason to share significantly  
more with Harry than he previously did, IF he wants Harry to fight 
for him and whole WW. Moreover, I think he OWES Harry to share things 
with him.

Somebody said that in HBP we will have a rift between Dumbledore and 
Harry. I personally hope so very much, because I think that if Harry 
forgives Dumbledore right away it would not be realistic.

Amanda:
snip.

And Dumbledore, as an authority figure, *must* be able to trust Harry 
to do his bidding even if the reasons don't seem good to Harry's more 
limited understanding.


Alla:

Why?





Amanda:
No, not surprised. But I am surprised that Harry is immature enough 
to put things in such a personal, childish, Harry-centric frame when 
he should clearly understand that Dumbledore and most of the adults  
he is in contact with are involved in a huge struggle for the safety 
of the wizarding world. He makes himself an obstruction, rather than 
trying to honestly understand and rise to the challenge.


Alla:

Again, without Harry their struggle will not be very succesful. 

Amanda:

Aw. Poor baby. I think Harry limited himself in his working with 
Snape, because of his persistence in thinking there is some bizarre 
power struggle happening. Snape is a grown man with better things to 
do; he throws the occasional snide comment, but if he wanted to harm 
Harry, Harry would be significantly harmed already.


Alla:

When you said "poor baby", I thought at first you were talking about 
Snape. :o) I think that he harmed Harry many times already, 
personally. And sorry, but judging by Snape/Harry interactions, Snape 
does not remind me of grown man much.


 Just my opinion of course,

Alla







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