[HPforGrownups] Re: More Snape Defense, regarding Snape's childhood. (Long)

[TrekkieGrrrl]

No: HPFGUIDX 122992

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>> Trekkie:
>> I think his rejection of Lily's help was the general defense
> pattern popping up. The "don't let anyone get close enough -
> emotionally - to hurt you later. And given his upbringing, he DID
> have (and possibly has still) prejudices agaist mudbloods.
>> And it's not like perfectly nice and ordinary people here aren't
> racists too. Lots of people know when to BEHAVE Politically Correct,
> but it is often only skin deep.
>>
>> I don't think Snape is afraid of humility. I am not sure he
> understands that concept. He knows humiliation and may confuse those
> two terms. And he DOES See a chance to get even. Yes he
> behaves "childish" in his wish for revenge over Sirius, I have never
> claimed him to be perfect :o) But he DID come to realize that his DE
> choice was wrong - perhaps making that realization was his first
> truly FREE choice.
>>
>
>
> Valky:
> You know, after all, in a way we are kind of in agreement on this.
> I am pretty sure that Snape confuses humility with the things he is
> afraid of, going deeper into the repercussions of that explains a
> lot of his behaviour. Though it can't excuse it, for my mind, and in
> the end it's only to his own detriment.
>
> Its true that good behaviour does not the saint make, but Snape
> finds himself also unable to place value on Dumdbledore's kindness
> now, not just Lily's then. And in contrast he seems to have a
> sincere sentiment for Lucius Malfoy and Argus Filch, two of the
> unkindest and more sadistic people in the wizard world.
> Yes, Snape has high regard for Dumbledores respect and superiority,
> but he reserves a limited contempt for his soft-heartedness.
> Snape is definitely, to me anyway, still in a pattern of rejecting
> kindness rather than keeping distance.
> Why does he have hearty fellowship with these *superficially well
> behaved* people who he knows would as soon stab you from behind as
> look at you, if he's afraid of being hurt? What *does* he believe
> in, and is he as confused as he looks, or is he as superficial as we
> don't want him to be?

Trekkie again:
Hmm... Every answer raises more questions here *G*

I think you could say that his rejection of kindness IS his way of keeping 
distance.

That doesn't answer why he looks up o Lucius though, byut I think there's 
another thing in play here. Snape has always been looking up to Malfoy, 
since his school days (can't remember if it's backed up in canon other than 
from the way he treats Draco - that's the backdraw of reading too much 
fanfiction)  And I think he still is. In many ways, Lucius is everything 
Snape wants to be (at least IMO) - despite his DE career.

Argus Filch is more tricky. I want to think that Snape only uses filch as a 
sort of boogeyman, but again, Snape DOES have a sadistic streak to him, so 
maybe it's just that he's found a kindred spirit. After all, Filch is also a 
sort of pariah, being a squib in a wizard school. In any case there has to 
be more to Filch than what meets the eye. Why would ANYONE want a mean 
sadistic squib around otherwise?

~Trekkie
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