Snape at Godric's Hollow

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 123050


Brothergib wrote:
<snip> The feeling that I have never been able to shift, is that Snape
WAS there at Godric's Hollow. If he was there, then I do not see how
he could have been a spy at this point (Why wouldn't he have warned
the OOTP about the impending attack - or previously about Peter's
switch!).

> > I think that Snape's Boggart would somehow illustrate what
happened at Godric's Hollow and how it caused Snape's switch of
allegiance.

Carol responds:
Dumbledore makes it clear in the GoF Pensieve scene (Karkaroff's
testimony) that Snape became a spy well before Godric's Hollow. That
does not mean that he was a member of the Order of the
Phoenix--Sirius, who *was* a member, certainly doesn't know about his
spy activities and he's not in the Order photograph. I think he was
spying for DD only. It's also unlikely that he knew that Wormtail was
the Order's spy given his refusal to believe Lupin's story in PoA and
his stubborn belief that Sirius was a traitor and a murderer. I doubt
very much that he was at Godric's Hollow or he would have rescued baby
Harry himself. Wormtail, OTOH, *must* have been there or he could not
have kept and hidden Voldemort's wand. IMO, Snape was already teaching
at Hogwarts, teaching from the beginning of the term, when the Potters
were killed. It's most unlikely that a vacancy would suddenly have
opened just at the point when he needed it, when the Potters had been
killed. He says that he's been teaching fourteen years, not almost
fourteen years or fourteen years next month. And Snape, as the Potions
Master, values precision.

At any rate, it's clear that Godric's Hollow didn't cause Snape's
change of allegiance. He was already spying on Voldemort and the Death
Eaters--hard to do when Voldemort has been vaporized and the DEs are
either being hunted down and arrested or claiming to have been Imperio'd.

brothergib:

 I
> > also believe that this {Godric's Hollow] is actually Snape's Worst
Memory. We never saw the last memory of Snape's in the Pensieve!!

Carol responds:
Actually, we saw only one of three memories that Snape placed in the
Pensieve. One might be the encounter with werewolf!Lupin when they
were both sixteen; the other, as you say, is probably whatever made
him leave the Death Eaters and switch to Dumbledore's side. I don't
see how the Pensieve memories can come back into the plot, but I'm
sure we'll find out the answer to that question. But IMO, it can't be
Godric's Hollow. There's no way he could have been there without
Wormtail knowing, and Wormtail would have happily found a way to pin
the blame for his betrayal on Snape could he have done so. And there's
no way he would not have known that Wormtail, not Sirius, was the
traitor had he been there.

Carol, who thinks that Snape learned about Voldemort's defeat through
a change in his Dark Mark and informed Dumbledore immediately


> >
> > Finally, I believe that DD completely trusted Snape's story, but had
> > to lie about Snape's previous work as a spy. No-one would beieve that
> > Snape happened to change on the day that Voldemort was defeated. (I
> > can't remember if there is any reference to Snape's presence in the
> > Order other than from DD).
>
> .:Snapefan & Owl-collector:.