McG / DD / Re: Why should Harry be expected to listen to anyone at H

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No: HPFGUIDX 123087


Alla earlier: 
 
Basically you are saying that being tortured with the blood quill 
was a very good thing for Harry, in itself, correct?


Festuco: 
In this situation, yes. Rotten but beneficial. For the people who 
only want to equal good with virtuous, nobel, morally good etc. 
please check a dictionary and broaden your view of the English 
language.


Alla: 
Thank you for your reply. "Broaden your view of English 
language"... That is exactly what I had been doing during last seven 
years, every day of my life. :) But I most certainly continue doing 
so... Anyway, I checked the Webster dictionary I have at home and 
what do I see there? One of the definitions for "good" is indeed 
virtuous and nowhere "good" is defined as what Umbridge had been 
doing to Harry, so I think I will continue to associate DU 
actions towards Harry with "real evil" not "good", but this is just 
my opinion, of course.

Alla earlier:

Same question. Why does Harry have a duty to save WW? I am not 
talking about metathinking look at all - because Harry is the hero 
of the story, etc. I am asking why Harry who does not know that he 
is the main character in the books has a duty to save WW, who , IMO 
treats him quite horribly from times to times.


Festuco: 
Harry has a huge sense of responsibility. He knows the prophecy, and
he will get after Voldmort because Voldemort and his supporters will
attack the parts of the WW Harry loves best: his friend Hermione
(mudblood), the Weasleys (blood traitors), people like Hagrid, DD 
etc.I cannot see this happen and Harry standing apart and doing 
nothing, even if LV would leave him alone, and if there was no 
prophecy. And as I said above I don't believe in LV leaving Harry 
alone, and loose all status among his followers because he is too 
scared to go after a boy. 


Alla:

So, Harry does have a huge sense of responsibility? because my 
previous reply was in response to your argument that Harry's 
irresponsible behaviour may have delivered WW to Voldemort. I was 
not asking you whether Harry has a choice or not, he probably does 
not, although I do believe that we almost always have a choice.
I was asking you more along the lines why do you think that Harry 
OWES WW anything.

Person making a conscious choice to fight  and sacrifice himself in  
the fight is one thing, so far Harry has not been given a 
possibility to make the conscious choice to fight, because so much 
information was kept from him, but at the same time he is being held 
to the same standards as someone who is making such conscious choice.


Am I being clear? 

Just my opinion,

Alla