Wizard Chess WAS (McG / DD / Re: Why should Harry .....)
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 27 00:14:20 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 123141
> > Valky:
Yeah he's acting quite a bit bratty, especially in disregarding the
advice he is given by elders and friends that he *knows* care about
him, but at the end of his fourth year at Hogwarts he faced a mans
battle, he struggled for his very life against the most sinister
force in existence, he wants it over and QUICKLY! I understand his
frustration,>
> -- Patrick:
> Sometimes I think the fact that Harry's still a kid gets lost.
> I just felt it needed to be said. Yes, he did cross into what we
> perceive as bratty behavior, but if I were in his position I doubt
I'd listen to people who 'cared about me' as they did over that
summer.
>
Valky replys:
I am glad this thread has finally turned in Harrys favour. You're so
right Patrick, and Matt and Geoff. Harry is actually a really decent
kid when all is said and done. I don't think his OOtP blowups are
any indication of the opposite, at all. Despite the determination of
others to prove it to me. :D
> Valky again:
> > The game seems to end in stalemate though, doesn't it? Or does
it? What did Sirius sacrifice really represent?
> > If the dealings with Umbridge ended up fulfilling a positive
> > purpose, could the same possibly be said about Sirius and the
Veil?
>
> Patrick:
> but I think Sirius' departure is a forced maturing for Harry.
Another realization that this isn't a game, this isn't Wizard's
chess. I know that isn't what you meant, I'm just extending the
metaphor.
>
Valky:
I agree with that, I think you know I was using the Wizard Chess
metaphor in terms of plot construction, and cracking the code of
PS/SS to see the foreshadowings of the next books, but on another
level to that I totally agree that there is no Wizard Chess or game
of any nature, to be found.
OTOH I discovered that I was wrong about Wizard Chess being the
fifth step under the trapdoor, which thoroughly confused me. Its the
fourth AFAIK so now I am wondering why the Chess metaphor fits the
plot so remarkably? And I was kind of hoping I could apply the Logic
Puzzle to a foreshadowing of the HBP as a follow up, but that's not
working now. I guess I'll have to create a new theory about the
under the trapdoor foreshadowings called JMO (JKR Mixed the
Order). ;D Where there's a will.....
> Or, reading over it, perhaps I'm just prattling.
>
> -- Patrick
No not at all Patrick, It needs to be said and I am glad you said
it. Personally, I find it depressing that the focus of so many
readers of OOtP became a harsh thorough and deliberate judgement of
the heroes, their behaviour and their attitudes and the list of
their wrongs on Wizardkind. It was the atmosphere of the story, IMO
and doesn't need to be applied to drastically to undo Harry as a
good character.
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