The Cemetery at Hogwarts

hogsheadbarmaid hhbarmaid at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 02:36:51 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 123502


Barmaid wrote:
> 
> > As JKR interviews are treated as canon by this group I believe it 
> > is appropriate to bring this up here.  
> > 
> > It was just pointed out to me earlier today that in an interview 
> > on the DVD of PoA JKR reveals that there is a cemetery somewhere 
> > on the grounds of Hogwarts.  I watched the interview, and sure 
> > enough, there she is, affirming just that.
> > 
> <snip>
> > The context is that the director of the movie wanted to put a 
> > cemetery in the movie, he wanted that to be where the trio is 
when 
> > they watch what they believe to be Buckbeak's execution.  Alfonso 
> > says that Jo said no, because "that is not where the graveyard is 
> > it is in another part of the castle (or grounds?) and it will 
> > play
."  OK, I put that in quotes, but it is a paraphrase.  But
> > he does end with "it is gonna play
.." and leaves that hanging
> > heavy in the air. 
> > 
> > So, what do people make of this?



Dungrollin:
I suppose it could be where the school founders are buried - didn't 
it get mentioned as appearing in book 6 rather than book 7? Which 
could mean that the HBP plotline cut from CoS is related to Godric 
Gryffindor.

Barmaid again:

The interview I saw did not say anything about which book it would 
show up in.  I do not know if there is some sort of extended version, 
or if she talks about it elsewhere. 


 Dungrollin:
I have another suggestion...  but those with high blood pressure 
might be advised to read no further.

I've been toying with this thought for a while, ever since I heard 
about this supposed graveyard, though I can't make it work unless 
what Voldy did to make himself immortal was to mess around with 
AKs.  

So it would go:
The AK that bounced off Harry had the same effect on Harry as 
whatever Voldy's successful experiment had on Voldy. 
 
Harry will now become Vapour!Potter if somebody AKs him.

If somebody AKs Harry, the only way to get Harry a body back so that 
he can defeat Voldy for good would be by using the same Dark Magic 
that Voldy used (since the Philosopher's stone has been destroyed). 
So he'd need: bone of the father (if this graveyard is where James 
is buried), blood of an enemy (Malfoy? Crabbe? Goyle? Snape?) and 
flesh of a servant (Dobby?).
 
Means and ends, again. How dark is Dark Magic? Is it worth 
besmirching one's soul to save the world?  If intention is the 
important thing when using magic, would using Dark Magic with the 
intention of saving the world count as using Dark Magic?  When 
presented with a choice between two evils, should one choose the 
lesser? Or should one rather save one's own soul than the lives of 
countless innocents?
 
It would present an interesting moral dilemma for the heros to get 
their teeth into, at least. 
 
Dungrollin

Barmaid again:

Yicks.  I do like the idea of our heroes having to tackle some sort 
of hard moral dilemmas.  And certainly one can not think of a 
graveyard in the Harry Potter context without thinking of LV's 
rebirthing scene.  This does not seem very likely to me, but it is 
certainly interesting.

Perhaps there is some other, some less dark magic, that would also 
require some of the elements found in a cemetery.  The cemetery in 
GoF is a Muggle cemetery.  What would we imagine to be different, if 
anything, in a WW cemetery?  I could certainly imagine there being 
some objects or plants or something with particular magical 
properties that could maybe only be found in a WW cemetery.  I could 
imagine the good guys having to do some rare magic that requires 
these things.

I guess I would rather it be something new, that we have not seen 
before, rather than a repeat of the rebirth spell....

Barmaid -- who rather likes a good cemetery... you can learn a lot 
about people by observing what they do with their dead.








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