DD and Harry in Book VI, what you do and don't want to see

[hogsheadbarmaid]

No: HPFGUIDX 123517


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> Lupinlore also listed:
> 3) Harry becoming a suffering saint who decides to "put his own 
> pain aside for the good of others."
>  
> 5) The interaction between DD and Harry turning on insipid
>  discussions of "adulthood" and "what's right over what's easy."
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>  
> SSSusan now, very briefly:
> I find it amusing that you use the very *loaded* words "silly" 
> and "insipid" and a clearly sarcastic tone with "suffering saint" 
> when you list the things you do not want to see.  Why are they so 
> silly & insipid?  What's so horrible about putting others before 
you 
> in desperate times?  They may not be what you want to see, but 
> they're part of what JKR has given us so far, so I can't quite see 
> why you'd expect to see no more of them.  
> > 
> > I mean, if the "choosing what's right over what's easy" 
discussion is insipid, then I wonder if you'll really want to keep on 
reading ol' JKR's work?  I mean, that notion seems pretty central to 
what she's written so far!
> > 
> > Siriusly Snapey Susan, *happy* to see more silliness & insipidity 
> if this is what goes into those categories.
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> Alla:
> 
> I will definitely NOT speak for Lupinlore,especially since I think 
> this is one of those rare times that we differ a bit. :o)
> 
> Again, I DON'T want Harry to stop being a hero, because then he 
will not be Harry we all know and love ( or at least I know and 
love), but I am afraid we are back to Harry "the hero" v "close to 
realism" portrayal of Harry JKR seems to be doing in OOP.
> 
> I DON'T find it realistic in the slightest ( and yes, I know that 
> this is the book about magic, I am only speaking about Harry 
> emotional development) that after all that Harry had been through 
he will be concerned about saving the world.
> 
> After OOP he has SO MANY issues to work through starting with 
> Sirius' death. I disagree that WW well being would be the first 
> thing on his mind.
> 
> Am I confusing , Susan? If those were the books NOT in the fantasy 
> genre, I would say that I expect years for Harry to come to more or 
> less normal emotional state.
> 
> I understand that JKR does not have a book space or time to do 
> something like that, but I HOPE that she will at least NOT drop all 
> those issues right away  and again I am thinking about 
> the "mastering his emotions in order to be useful". It makes me 
> scared.
> 
> 
> Just my opinion,
> 
> Alla

Barmaid now:

Why are these either/or kinds of issues?  Why does Harry have to 
*either* deal with all his grief *or* step up and do his part 
to "save the world"?????  I find it particularly puzzling that the 
camp of "Harry having to take time to deal with his personal 
troubles" is often portrayed as *realism* while the "step up and 
fulfill his role in the world" view is slated as the *fantasy* or 
fairytale nature of the story.  It seems to me that in *reality* 
people rarely have the luxury of just disengaging from their 
responsibilities and sorting out their *issues*... at least in my 
little corner of so called reality this seems to be true.  I think we 
will see a complex blend of *silliness & insipidity* (well said 
SSSusan!) and some heart wrenching hard times for our hero.  I think 
Alla is right that it may well take Harry years to deal with all his 
grief, and we will never see most of those years from JKR's 
perspective (thank god for fan fiction!).  But while he is working 
all of that out he will still have to fulfill his role in the world.

Please know I am saying all of this with a smile on my face and with 
no malice for any opinion that differs from mine.  Really.  

      --The Barmaid