Violence/ was Child Abuse (Draco) (was Re: Christmas present pattern...)

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 131846

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <labmystc at y...> wrote:
> 
 To have overwhelming peace in the world is a great dream, but alas, 
I think it is naive to think it will ever come true.
> I don't condone violence in any form, but I have resorted to it 
> twice: the time I mentioned earlier, and when I interrupted and 
> stopped a mugger from attacking a defenseless, elderly woman. 
People like this will always exist, and they have to be stopped when 
they act...
> 
(Snip) 
> When confronted with evil, and I mean pure evil...to wring our 
> hands, ignore it, and hope it goes away...this is wrong. Evil must 
be stopped, no matter what the cost. I would rather see my soul go 
down in flames stopping evil, than to let it continue and harm 
others.
> 
(snip) Ultimately, Harry will have to murder LV, which he realized 
> at the end of OoTP. However, in doing so, he will have stopped LV 
> from conquering all. Yes, he commits evil through murder, but 
> ultimately for a good reason. 


Tonks:
Yes I do think that to protect someone else you have to take on an 
attacker, like to protect the elderly woman you mentioned. The 
problem is we can think about good and evil on a philosophical level 
and then walk out the door and bam...  there is it in the flesh and 
what is our response to be??  And this is where I am perplexed.  
Would I shoot an intruder that broke into my home and when I feared 
that he would harm me or my family?  This may shock you, but yes I 
would.  And as long as I didn't kill him I would probably be OK with 
that.  But the problem for me is that I know that this is the dark 
side of humanity. And I think that we can do better and should do 
better.  We are the highest form of creation and yet we can not find 
a way to live in peace with each other.  We can not find a way to 
treat each other with good will.  That is what gets me.  Humanity as 
a whole has fallen so short of what it could and IMO should be.

Following this, I don't think that Harry just killing LV is the 
answer.  And I think that JKR is not going to go there.  As I said 
before, she worked for Amnesty and one can learn a lot about the 
evils that are inflicted on one human by another or by one society 
by another by working for Amnesty International.  I just know in my 
heart that there is a better way.  What I don't know is how that can 
play out once we leave the ivory tower of philosophical speculation 
and walk out into the street to meet the mugger or axe murder who 
may be waiting for us there.  I just don't know the answer, but I 
know the one we have it not the best.

Tonks_op