[HPforGrownups] Snape's abuse v Mcgonagall abuse
MadameSSnape at aol.com
MadameSSnape at aol.com
Sat Jul 2 21:23:57 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 131868
In a message dated 7/2/2005 1:38:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com writes:
Speaking about putting child on the spot... I see no justification
whatsoever of Snape reading Rita's article in class in GoF. Talk
about putting child on the spot simply because one feels like it,
IMO.
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Sherrie here:
Were you never caught passing notes in class? It was standard procedure in
my schools - even with "nice" teachers - that notes intercepted in class were
read aloud. If you were caught whispering in class, you were made to stand
up and "share what's so important with the class." When I was in elementary
school, if you were caught chewing gum in class, you could find yourself with
it in your hair. I recall one incident when a boy, having been told to sit
down and be quiet several times and refusing to comply (testing the new
teacher), had his ears used as handles to return him to his seat. We didn't have
a dunce cap, but kids who misbehaved were sometimes made to sit in a corner.
And verbal dressing-downs were quite common.
No, this wasn't in the Victorian age - Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon, actually. No,
this wasn't a boarding school - it was a public school in New York State.
And no, parents didn't complain. And teachers had control of the classrooms -
they didn't have to fear their students, as they do today. (I never saw a
metal detector til I went to work in a maximum security prison - my nieces &
nephews walk through them to get into school. And none of MY teachers ever had
to break up knife fights in class - a friend of mine left one school where
he was teaching after he got cut breaking up a fight - between two SEVENTH
GRADE GIRLS.)
Sorry - I don't see either McGonagall or Snape as outside the norm. They're
strict, they hold their students to high standards - something NOT the norm
in today's schools - and they keep their classrooms under control. And they
TEACH.
Umbridge is another story...
Sherrie
"Some kid a hundred years from now is going to get interested in the Civil
War and want to see these places. He's going to go down there and be standing
in a parking lot. I'm fighting for that kid." - Brian Pohanka, 1990
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