[HPforGrownups] SHIP: Harry and....Susan?
Derek Thorburn
dc.thorburn at ntlworld.com
Sun Jul 3 09:06:57 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 131896
I was extremely interrested in what you had to say about this. Susan
strikes me as a more positive character than Cho was. I think that if
Hermione again asked Harry to meet her and he was in Hogsmead at the time
with Susan, Susan would understand the relationship, even when Harry
explained. Wow - it will be interesting to see what happens.
Derek
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From: "hermionekitten9" <kreneeb at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:16 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] SHIP: Harry and....Susan?
>I posted this over at Mugglenet... but I would like to hear what
> everybody here has to say... that and the fact that the release date
> for HbP is coming closer.... I want to get my theories out there, in
> case I happen to be right. ;)
>
> Everybody is saying that Harry will end up with Ginny, Hermione, or
> Luna. I don't think it's going to be one of these three girls. First
> of all, there really hasn't been any real concrete clues about any
> of these girls, regardless of what other shippers might say. In my
> personal opinion Hermione and Ginny are just, well, easy. I would
> think of it as a cop-out if Harry were to end up with one of them. I
> mean, best friend or best friend's little sister? I give JKR's
> imagination much more credit than that. Luna? I just can't see her
> in a relationship with anyone, more or less a person with Harry's
> temperament. Don't get me wrong, though. I adore these girls. I just
> don't see them with Harry.
>
> I ship Harry with Susan Bones. I know she isn't a major player yet,
> but I think that JKR has introduced Susan the way she has introduced
> a million other seemingly "unimportant" things. And with Susan being
> more prominent in the fifth book than all the other ones, I think
> JKR has made way for her to be even more prominent in the sixth
> book. If Susan is just to be a name at the Sorting ceremony,
> why "up" her in the fifth book? I think she is going to be important
> in some way, so why not as a love interest?
>
> Let's take a moment to look at this ship. First, let's look at what
> we know about Susan. We know that she is from Hufflepuff, which
> implies that she is hard-working, and is "just and loyal." She also
> had an aunt, uncle, and cousins die by one of Voldemort's Death
> Eaters. We also have a quote from JKR saying that Voldemort killed
> her grandparents. Another aunt of Susan's, who is the head of the
> department of Magical Law Enforcement, was a "fair" person who
> resided over Harry's trial (next minister, anyone?). Susan joined
> the DA during the first DA meeting. We can gather that she has a
> great relationship with her aunt, and she isn't a
> regular "Lavender."
>
> I think this is an awful lot of background that we have for a person
> who is going to be only a "minor" character.
>
> Notice how both Harry and Susan have lost family members to
> Voldemort. Susan is the only other student, mentioned in canon, that
> has. This is something that neither Luna, Hermione, nor Ginny have
> in common with Harry. It could be a bonding point between he and
> Susan. Then there is this quote:
>
> Susan Bones, who had an uncle, aunt, and cousins who had all died at
> the hand of one of the ten, said miserably during Herbology that she
> now had a good idea what it felt like to be Harry.
> "And I don't know how you stand it, it's horrible."
> This is the quote that got me hooked on Harry/Susan. In two scenes
> in OotP featuring Susan, one is all about her telling Harry that she
> knows how he feels. Why did JKR make it a point to mention that
> Susan knows how Harry feels when for four books she has been nothing
> but a name at a Sorting ceremony? Is this a foreshadowing of what's
> to come? After all, Harry/Hermione, Harry/Luna, and Harry/Ginny
> shippers all state how their girls "know how Harry feels."
> What about the second scene with Susan, during the first DA meeting
> at the Hog's Head? The meeting wasn't going particularly well at
> first. Zacharias Smith's comments were making the other students
> doubt Harry's DADA abilities. But then Susan spoke up, asking about
> Harry's Patronus and reminding the other students that he was good
> at DADA. Had JKR not put her there, who knows where the DA could
> have gone. Also, Susan's and Harry's conversation was all about
> Harry's Patronus. Why don't we know what Susan's Patronus is? Was
> there a reason this was left out? You would think that JKR would
> mention it during the DA class where they are all learning how to
> conjure a Patronus. I expected at least a comment from Susan, since
> the Patronus charm was what got her "introduced" to Harry, after
> all. It's just curious to me, very curious indeed.
>
> Then there are Susan's friends. Does anyone else find it odd that
> while we have the DoM six, there is *another* group of six -- Ernie,
> Justin, Hannah, Susan, Terry and Anthony -- that are always hanging
> around each other. Their biggest moment is on the train ride home
> when they stop Draco from ambushing Harry. Could this just be
> coincidence?
>
> I also find it curious that we don't know who killed her family. Why
> was this kept out? Why say "...who was killed by one of the ten..."
> and not "...who was killed by so-and-so?" It seems obvious that it
> was purposely kept out. It just seems to me that JKR has put Susan
> under our radar on purpose. I wouldn't be surprised if JKR does one
> of her famous "plot twists" and has us all thinking that it's going
> to be one of Harry/Ginny, Harry/Hermione, Harry/Luna, and then have
> Susan come swoopin' down on her broom. It wouldn't be the first time
> she had surprised us like that.
>
> Finally, let's look at Susan's name. For the first four books it was
> all we had of her, and names can be very important in JKR's books.
> In Hebrew, Susan means lily, which suggests a connection to Harry's
> mother, and James, a form of Jacob (also Hebrew), means conqueror,
> which ties in nicely with our hero.
>
> I am just surprised that this ship didn't get more shippers, when we
> got a very good, although brief, picture of her in OotP and found
> out that Harry and Susan have about as much chance of happening as
> any other ship.
>
> kitten...TTFN
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