Draco an underdog?
horridporrid03
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Mon Jul 4 00:59:51 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 131920
> >>Geoff:
> I think, Alla, that you have created a contradiction in terms here.
> My dictionary defines "underdog" as : A competitor thought to have
> little chance of winning a fight or contest.
> <snip>
> >>Alla:
> Oops, I may have created a contradiction, so let me try to clarify.
> I thought Betcy was talking about Draco as underdog in relation to
> whole Hogwarts, not just in terms of Draco/Harry relationship.
Betsy Hp:
No, you're right about what I was saying, Alla. Draco *is* the
Hogwarts underdog, while Harry is the Hogwarts golden boy. Every
single book plays this out. However, JKR cleverly sets it up so that
Harry *appears* to be the underdog. She does it by having Harry
*see* himself as the underdog, not recognizing his goldenboy status.
How else can you explain Harry's nervousness at finding a date for
the Yule ball when just about every single girl in Hogwarts is
gagging to be his date?
> >>Alla:
> Here I most definitely see HRH as underdogs, because they have to
> overcome external circumstances, which are often adversarial to
> them. I gave examples in my previous post when everybody in school
> is ready to turn on Harry when he does as much as a wrong step,
> when Hermione has to work harder than many purebloods,simply
> because she is a muggleborn.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
When has Hermione *ever* suffered for being a muggleborn? I mean,
sure *Draco* calls her names, but she is definitely the teachers
favorite and certainly known as one of the smartest students of her
class. As to Harry, yes, sometimes his popularity sours, but he's
got a strong crowd around him (the Weasley twins support should never
be sneered at) and even when he at his lowest his fame is strong. (A
good example of that is the DA)
> >>Alla:
> Draco does not have to work for anything, he already has
> everything, because of his family status.
Betsy Hp:
What everything? Draco wasn't able to bring a broom in first year,
that was Harry. Draco doesn't have the top-of-the-line quidditch
broom, Harry does. Draco's never won the Quidditch cup, Harry has.
Draco's never won his house the House Cup, Harry has. No one
chanted "we got Draco!" when Draco got sorted into Slytherin as the
twins did for Harry. Draco doesn't have all the girls panting after
him like Harry does. Draco doesn't get the Ministry of Magic
smoothing over rules he's broken like Harry does. Draco doesn't have
the headmaster in his back pocket like Harry does. Draco's name
couldn't open every single door in the WW like Harry's can. Hell,
the *only* thing Draco had going for him was a powerful father, and
Harry's taken even that away from him.
Now, Harry *does* pay a powerful price for all of his fame and
glory. If his parents hadn't died, no one would know his name any
more than they know Draco's. But Draco doesn't see that. He only
sees Harry beating him, time and time again. And he sees the rules
getting set aside for Harry time and time again.
What JKR does, and she's very clever about it, is she doesn't let
Harry see how powerful he really is in the WW. I think Harry is
starting to get an inkling of his power, hence the DA and his
interview with Rita Skeeter. (Hermione, clever girl that she is,
figures out Harry's power before he does.)
> >>Alla:
> <snip>
> Also, I don't even view Draco as underdog in his relationship with
> Harry, because IMO even thought he loses, he is not supposed to
> lose.
> Harry often wins against all odds in the situation which Draco
> himself starts and that is why it is such immense satisfaction for
> me to see Draco loose over and over again.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
See, that's because *Harry* thinks, "gosh, how could I possibly win?"
but he's got the school's smartest witch, the WW's most powerful
wizard, an incredibly powerful wizarding family, his family's money,
and his own prodigy-like skills on his side.
Draco only ever has his bravado and a good front. Which is all an
underdog ever has.
Betsy Hp
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