THE LILY & JAMES ALCHEMIST THEORY

tinglinger tinglinger at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 4 06:38:42 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131930

Here is my latest theory that can explain a lot of what happened
during the time of the First Wizard War and events leading up to 
the death of the Potters.....

THE SORCERER'S STONE - what we should know
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1. Albus Dumbledore and Nicholas Flamel are currently
partners in their alchemy practice (SS 103 - frog card)
2. When Harry tells Hermione about Dumbledore's frog card,
she rushes off to find an "enormous old book" that says
that "NIcholas Flamel is the only known maker of the
Sorcerer's Stone." (SS 220)
3. If the book is that old, it might have been written ages
ago before Dumbledore was Flamel's partner or even a wizard.
Ol' Albus is only 150 or so, not quite the 665 that Flamel
was when that "old" book was written.
4. Therefore, though we are led to believe that there was
only ONE sorcerer's stone, that may have been the case long
ago when the book was published. It might not necessarily
be the case now.
5. Ron adds "no wonder we couldn't find Flamel in the Study
of Recent Developments in Wizardry.... he's not exactly
recent if he's 665, is he?" --- and THAT WAS AT THE TIME THE
"OLD" BOOK WAS PUBLISHED.

So.... since Dumbledore and Flamel are partners it is not
unreasonable to conjecture that -
a- Dumbledore now also knows how to make the stone - Flamel
taught him
b- There may be more than just "the one stone currently in
existence" - that was at the time of the old book, not now.
How does this play out? Please read on.....

IMPLICATIONS FOR JAMES LILY AND HARRY
THE LILY & JAMES ALCHEMIST THEORY
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1. After James and Lily leave Hogwarts, they are both hired
to work as apprentices for the Dumbledore Flamel Alchemy
partnership. There is no canon for this so i am making a
reach here .... However, I don't have to reach very far as
you may agree by the time you finish reading this. If this
occupational choice is valid however, a lot of things fall
into place quite nicely........
2. Because they are apprentices for Dumbledore and Flamel,
the pay is quite good (ya think?). They can get all the
gold they could ever want from the Sorcerer's Stone, gold
that is not Leprechaun's Gold, gold that can be stored in
a vault in Gringott's and spent. Or in the Potter's
unfortunate case, saved for Harry. And of course the gold
would have been kept in Gringott's - houses burn down
don't they? (SS 63).
Now we have a reasonable guess for how the Potters got their
fortune. Remember, it is not the ONLY possible guess, but it
is not one that can be ruled out as ridiculous...
3. Being Head Boy and Head Girl and from Gryffindor, Lily
and James seem to be the perfect choice for apprentices. But
why would they be needed? In fact why are they VITAL for the
job? Here is where the second stretch comes in, but once
again, if you buy into it, the payoff (not in Leprechaun Gold) 
is huge........
4. Remember that during the time the Potters graduated
from Hogwarts, Voldemort was near the height of his powers.
The wizarding world, and the order in particular (moony's
photo and explanation to Harry in OOP support this) was
in deep trouble. As Lupin says to Molly in OOP ch 9
"last time we were outnumbered 20 to 1 by the Death Eaters
and they were picking us off one by one.....".
Outnumbered and outgunned - the order was indeed in trouble.
So what to do ? what to do? Well, now we will find out why
the Potter's were REALLY hired as apprentices of the
partnership.....
5. Dumbledore had a plan that he had tried once before
with mixed results (more on this later .....). Remember that
the second property of the Sorcerer's stone is that "It also
produced the Elixir of Life, which will make the drinker
immortal". Now what if Harry was given the Elixir of Life,
and Voldemort has this prophecy that he heard about Harry,
and he tries to kill Harry who now is immortal ---- what
would happen to the target of that spell -- or its caster???
An irresistable force against an immovable object........
an AK cast on an eternal being !!!!! Would that spell not
create an effect similar to a priori incantatum - or better
yet, rebound automatically on the caster?
So in other words, Dumbledore set a trap for Voldemort --
Harry always was the intended target (or more accurately the
weapon). Dumbledore defeats the dark wizard and the Wizarding
world is saved. But something goes horribly wrong and James
and Lily are killed - despite Hagrid's rant

CAR CRASH! roared Hagrid, .... How could a car crash kill Lily an'
James? It's an outrage! A scandal.
If only he knew..... or did he?


And Harry survives as a boy, but a boy who is alchemistically
enhanced. Enhanced in such a way that he must be kept away from
wizards until he is ready to deal with it - an isolated
super-wizard.


So now you have the Lily & James are Alchemists Theory
as described above, and here is why it makes even more sense.......


You might ask why James and Lily would agree to such a thing?
Even for all the gold in Gringot's! Two reasons.
First, the wizarding world and the order are doomed if nothing is
done, and second BECAUSE DUMBLEDORE HAS DONE IT ALL BEFORE AND
SUCCEEDED..... almost.

----- more to follow -----

but one last point ... in my original Manxmouse theory I talked about
Harry being totally artificial - I am not so sure about that theory
now and feel more comfortable with "alchemically enhanced" rather than
Pinocchio - though either are supported ......
however, Voldemort does say to Harry (ss 293-294)
".. and ONCE I HAVE THE ELIXIR OF LIFE I WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE A BODY
OF MY OWN ...."
so there is another little property of the stone we should be aware
of.


tinglinger
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