THE LILY & JAMES ALCHEMIST THEORY

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jul 4 21:47:19 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131957

Tinglinger:
> 1. After James and Lily leave Hogwarts, they are both hired
> to work as apprentices for the Dumbledore Flamel Alchemy
> partnership. 
> 2. Because they are apprentices for Dumbledore and Flamel,
> the pay is quite good (ya think?). They can get all the
> gold they could ever want from the Sorcerer's Stone, gold
> that is not Leprechaun's Gold, gold that can be stored in
> a vault in Gringott's and spent. Or in the Potter's
> unfortunate case, saved for Harry. And of course the gold
> would have been kept in Gringott's - houses burn down
> don't they? (SS 63).

SSSusan:
Now, this is admittedly a nitpicky and rather silly objection, 
but....  Are you saying that the gold which is generated from the 
Sorcerer's Stone "comes out" in the form of galleons?  For what 
Harry finds in his vault is wizard MONEY, is it not?  Stuff he can 
pick up, stick in a sack, and spend?  And I can't imagine that 
wizards would just be *allowed* to turn gold into galleons without 
approval -- surely the goblins would frown upon that!

It's easy to get around this objection, though -- just say DD & 
Flamel turned in the gold they made & exchanged it for galleons, 
sickels & knuts, but I just wanted to point out that I don't think 
what they *made* as apprentices is what Harry finds in his vault.


> 5. Remember that
> the second property of the Sorcerer's stone is that "It also
> produced the Elixir of Life, which will make the drinker
> immortal". Now what if Harry was given the Elixir of Life,
> and Voldemort has this prophecy that he heard about Harry,
> and he tries to kill Harry who now is immortal... <snip>
> And Harry survives as a boy, but a boy who is alchemistically
> enhanced. Enhanced in such a way that he must be kept away from
> wizards until he is ready to deal with it - an isolated
> super-wizard.

SSSusan:
I have a rather more serious objection to this portion of the theory.
It just doesn't ring true for me, I'm afraid.  

One, doesn't one have to CONTINUE to drink the elixer of life in 
order to retain the effects?  So that, even if Harry was "immortal" 
at the time of the GH attack, once he stopped being administered the 
elixer, he'd be able to die, wouldn't he?

My second objection is, if somehow I'm wrong on my first objection, 
and DD knows Harry to be immortal, if DD is in control as much as 
this theory suggests, why would DD not just train Harry up to be a 
cold-blooded, heartless killer?  That is, ENSURE that Harry wouldn't 
mind going after Voldy and blowing him away?  

As it is, DD seems to want Harry to be as normal a kid as possible 
and seems to regret the task that may well lie ahead for Harry 
(killing Voldy).  In fact, DD (and JKR!) speaks of love, of burdens, 
of the rightness of saving a life over vengeance (as with 
Pettigrew).  If what you're suggesting is true, wouldn't DD be 
really hammering home the message that Harry needed to avenge his 
parents' deaths?  Get him primed for his mission?  After all, if the 
kid's immortal, he can't be killed, so what's to lose in pushing the 
confrontation with Voldy?  

Siriusly Snapey Susan








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