MAJOR MAJOR SPOILER - THE ALCHEMIST THEORY IN TWO ACTS

[tinglinger]

No: HPFGUIDX 132003

Sherry Gomes
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I would find this, if it is true, a big cop out and
for me, the story would become a farce.  It makes
Dumbledore out to be monster, a complete, unethical
monster, and it would make everything he has stood
for a lie.

tinglinger
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I don't think that would be the case.  Consider the 
times they are living in.... and remember Remus Lupin's
comment to a panic-stricken Molly Weasley ---

"Molly, thats enough," said Lupin firmly. "this isn't
like last time. The Order is better prepared ...<snip>
you weren't in the Order then, you don't understand, last
time WE WERE OUTNUMBERED TWENTY TO ONE by the Death Eaters
and they were picking us off one by one ..."
(OOP - CHAPTER 9 - THE WOES OF MRS. WEASLEY pg 177 us ed)

TWENTY TO ONE !!!! They were getting their butts kicked and
20-1 are pretty horrendous odds to be going on with ....
They were desperate and Dumbledore had a plan ...... 
not a neat and clean plan, but a plan - a plan that,
if it worked - and it had once before -
would rid the death eaters of its leader.
JKR showed us how everything crumbled instantaneously for
the DE's once Voldemort was gone.

So if Dumbledore was later judged to be immoral, which is a
judgment and is indeed debateable, at least there would be a 
free wizarding world around to hear it..... 
(and us poor muggles would get a book or two or seven ... )

Think:
If you were in an alley surrounded by 20 people waiting to do
you harm, would you be thinking about the ethical thing to do?


Sherry Gomes
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His nice comments about choice and all the other things would
be a joke.  JKR's comments about him would be lies, too, not
that she isn't capable of misdirection, of course.  


tinglinger
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JKR, like Dumbledore, wouldn't lie, but she would not answer
every question thrown at her. (side note - that's one of the 
main reasons I feel that Luna will be very important in HBP, 
Jo hardly talked about her AT ALL!)
To fools like me, EVERYTHING IS A CLUE!
And choice IS an issue - that is why Harry will turn out 
differently from Riddle in the end.... DD certainly hopes so...
{and so do we muggle types ....}


Sherry Gomes
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I prefer the idea of Lily's ancient blood magic.
It's simpler and cleaner. What parents would willingly
let their child be cursed?  The blood magic is something
I can see any mother with the knowledge or skill to do
such magic attempting to protect her child, when she
knows she and her husband and child are at risk.

tinglinger
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I like that idea too, but 20-1 ... 20-1 ... 
JKR has also went to great length to show that at least James
was not as pure and heroic as Harry {or the readers} first 
assumed.  If he was, your criticism would have a lot more
validity - James is NOT perfect by any means and not idealistic
enough or foolish enough to let anything stand in the way
of his survival.  And per JKR, we haven't heard the last
about Lily either, so I am not sure what suprises are in 
store for us regarding her.....

Remember again, if DD is right, the Potters are rich, Harry is
unharmed, and the wizarding world is saved - a nice trifecta!
But ....
If nothing is done, well... not much better than 20-1 ...
And who is to say that the Potters wouldn't have been picked 
off by death eaters later on if nothing was done? Really,
what BETTER choice did they have at that time???

I just don't think Jo wanted to write 

VIVA VOLDY!
the inside story of 
APOCALYPSE NOW IN THE WIZARDING WORLD   
and the Massacare of the Order
and Subjugation of the Muggles

she would have left that to Rita Skeeter or Geraldo 
or the British Tabloids ....


more later ...