Paradox of Time Travel in PoA

Kathy ladypensieve at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 5 17:21:50 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 132011



Dave's post made me think that there really should be an 8th book - 
but it should be Dumbledore's diary, or something like that, where 
we find out exactly how he masterminded everything that happened 
through all 7 books.

Why would you give an 11 year old, with no experience in magic, an 
invisibility cloak - knowing what Dumbledore knew?  That is just one 
question among hundreds that have been asked...wouldn't it be sweet 
if we had Dumbledore's words to let us know the truth?

KathyO


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "davenclaw" 
<daveshardell at y...> wrote:
> Hi, I'm new to the group, so I apologize if this has been hashed 
out 
> in extreme detail in the past.  But here is my question: if time-
> traveling-Harry conjured the Patronus that saved original-Harry's 
> life, then how did Harry survive in the first place to end up in 
the 
> hospital and become time-traveling-Harry?
> 
> I see two explanations. Either this is just one of those logical 
> quirks that make time-travel such a complicated concept to write 
> about, which we just have to accept and ignore, OR, Dumbledore 
saved 
> him the first time, and then basically came up with the plan that 
he 
> had them put into action to save Sirius.
> 
> I keep thinking back to SS/PS and the fact that Dumbledore sort of 
> led Harry into a confrontation with Quirrell (and prepared him for 
> it, such as with the Mirror of Erised and the cloak), and his 
speech 
> in OotP about his "plan," and I wonder just how much more he is 
> controlling everything than we realize.
> 
> The problem with time travel is that as soon as events are 
changed, 
> there is basically a "lost" past that happened, but that no one 
> remembers.  It gets complicated when you are showing how things 
> originally happened and how they were changed.  But I think it is 
> clear that Harry encountered the Dementors before he was in the 
> hospital, so who saved him from them before he went back in time 
to 
> save himself?
> 
> 
> Dave






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