Hagrid and Magic

smilingator4915 smilingator81 at aol.com
Thu Jul 7 05:02:14 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 132168

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ehren" <clehrenet_81 at y...>
wrote:
> Hello fellow HP fans:
> 
> 
> 1. I am finishing up reading CoS and a thought occured to me. Since 
> Hagrid's name was cleared and we know he wasn't resposible for 
> opening the Chamber why isn't he allowed to use magic now? 
> 
> "We had to go slow, 'cause I'm not really s'posed ter use magic..." 
> OoP pg 377 (US Paperback)

smilingator:
I've read OoP twice and each time I got to that part, I took it to
mean that Hagrid and Olympe weren't using magic because they did not
want to draw attention to themselves (well, no more than the unusually
tall companions would have gotten). But now that I re-read that
statement, I do see that Hagrid was saying that he's not allowed to
use magic at all. Maybe he shouldn't be using it because he never was
really trained to use it (he didn't even finish 3 years of schooling).
More likely though, I think JKR may have made a blooper. I mean, if
it's okay for him to TEACH at a school for wizards, I would think it'd
be okay for him to use a little magic!


Ehren wrote:
2. If Harry gets an official warning from the MoM for the pudding 
> Dobby made levitate in Cos pg 19 (US Paperback) how do they not
keep 
> track of the number of instances where Hagrid uses magic illegally? 
> (Ex. using an engorgment charm on the pumpkins in CoS or giving 
> Dudley a pig tail in SS).
> 
> Comments Thoughts?

smilingator:
What always struck me odd about this was that Harry received a letter
accusing him of using the Hover charm in CoS when it was in fact
Dobby. It seemed to me that the owl mail system (which could find
Harry wherever he was at the beginning of SS/PS) is much more accurate
than the MoM and  its monitoring of underage magic.
Along the same lines, how did Lily get away with "turning teacups into
rats" as Petunia described in Ch.4 of SS/PS? Were students not
monitored back then (although the Decree banning Underage Wizadry was
written in 1875) or was Lily not considered underage? And I'm sure
Fred and George have been doing a little magic of their own over the
years. If anyone should have been expelled for using magic illegally,
it should have been those two (though I would never want that to
happen to them!)

Ehren wrote:
> Ehren (is very sad because she works all day on July 16th and her
new 
> book will be sitting at the house waiting to be read)

smilingator:
Sorry Ehren! I will be taking a graduate course that weekend and I'm
trying to figure out how to smuggle the 682 page book into my class to
read. Any ideas??  ;)








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