"Harry didn't literally "catch" the Snitch with his hands but with his mouth..."
vmonte
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Thu Jul 7 21:18:26 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 132220
>Saraquel wrote in a different post:
In the Edinburgh interview, JK said this is what we should think
about:
"There are two questions that I have never been asked but that I
should have been asked, if you know what I mean. <snip> "Why
didn't Voldemort die?" Not, "Why did Harry live?" but, "Why didn't
Voldemort die?" The killing curse rebounded, so he should have died.
Why didn't he? At the end of Goblet of Fire he says that one or more
of the steps that he took enabled him to survive. You should be
wondering what he did to make sure that he did not die <snip> but you
should be asking yourself that question, particularly now that you
know about the prophesy."
>I vmonte wrote:
Isn't there a legend or fable that talks about a man that becomes
immortal because he keeps his soul hidden in a box? (Did I make this
up?)
>Pastafor5 wrote:
You could be on to something here. This is also part of the ballet
story "The Firebird" (phoenix?). In the version of this story that
I've read, the evil Kotschei keeps his soul in an egg in a box. The
firebird lulls the evil creatures who serve Kotschei
(dementors/death eaters?) to sleep so the hero can get to the box to
destroy the egg.
Interesting. I'm thinking Voldemort could somehow have his soul
magically protected within himself. Could the dementors play a roll
in retreiving it?
vmonte now: Now on a different post there was a disscussion on the
significance of the quidditch matches in the series. I pasted
Debbie's old essay:
>Debbie (Cont'd): PS/SS
I've left this for last, because the parallels do not seem to work
as foreshadowing like the parallels in the later books do. The
primary parallel I see in the first Quidditch match, against
Slytherin, is that the Trio suspect Snape both of trying to kill
Harry during the Quidditch match and of trying to get through the
obstacles to reach the Stone. However, since Harry doesn't learn
that Snape was protecting him instead of jinxing him at the
Quidditch match until he faces Quirrelmort, the element of
foreshadowing is lacking. There is some foreshadowing in the
Hufflepuff match, where Harry's grab of the Snitch in record time
foreshadows his ability later on to retrieve the Stone instantly
from the Mirror when he realizes he needs to keep Quirrelmort from
getting it (ch. 17). However, I find this parallel less satisfying
than those in the later books.
>I vmonte replied: I believe that the quidditch in this book
reflects what happened at Godric's Hollow. Debbie wrote about the
ease of Harry catching the snitch above. Well, look at how baby
Harry was able to defeat Voldemort at GH. (And it was really due to
the fact that his mother had placed a spell on Harry to protect him.)
>Marcela wrote: What I think that was very significant in this
match, and ultimately foreshadowing the end of the book, was that
Harry didn't literally "catch" the Snitch with his hands but with
his "mouth", almost swallowing it. This to me foreshadows that
Harry "contained" the Stone all this time (Mirror scene), but
didn't "want" it for himself (didn't swallow Snitch).
vmonte again:
Is it possible that Harry "swallowing the snitch" is symbolic for
what happened to Harry at GH?
Why is the "snitch" called the "snitch?" It reminds me of the snitch
in the bar who heard the prophecy. Is it possible that the snitch in
the bar was also carrying Riddle's soul? Could this soul have then
been transfered to Harry at GH?
Vivian
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