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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rolshan2000" 
<rolshan2000 at y...> wrote:
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> 
> I agree with all your analysis davenclaw.  Any storyline other than 
> a "simple" extension of what has been heavily hinted before - R/H 
and 
> H/G, would require a great deal of development. With only two books 
> left (and one of these shorter than OOP) and with the war to 
> conclude, Voldemort to defeat and a myriad questions/puzzles to be 
> resolved, it is highly unlikely that JKK would spend the time 
> necessary to, for example, develop and then resolve a romantic 
> triangle among the trio.

JKR has been known to surprise us in both good and bad ways, but I 
tend to agree as well.  OOTP, whatever one thinks of it, didn't do 
very much for wrapping up plot points -- in fact it wasn't even much 
of a start.  JKR has left an AWFUL lot for the last two books, and I 
don't see that there is any real time to introduce yet another major 
female character and set her up as Harry's love interest, or for 
subplots as complicated as an inter-trio love triangle.  As a matter 
of fact, I would tend to extend this analysis to a lot of other plot 
points.  I think a lot of things are going to turn out to be simpler 
and more straight forward than many (especially adult) fans might 
like.  Many would like to see a new love interest for Harry, a 
deepening of Draco's character, a much more in-depth exploration of 
Slytherin House, a deepening of the relationship between Harry and 
Dumbledore, a deepening of the relationship between Harry and Lupin, 
exploration of Tom Riddle's childhood, further information about the 
pasts of Dumbledore and McGonnagall, details about Grindlewald, a 
full analysis of Snape's character and the psychological wellsprings 
of his attitude, detailed explanations about Harry's parents and 
their deaths, greater insight into the Dursleys and the way they 
relate to the wizarding world, explanations about Hermione's parents 
and their understanding of the Wizarding World, a further analysis of 
the dynamics of the Weasley family especially with regard to Percy, a 
true movement for social change at Hogwarts and in the WW in general, 
detailed pictures of the turmoil at the Ministry particularly around 
Fudge and Umbridge, a widening of the scope of the narrative to 
include other wizarding nations, an intense period of psychological 
insight and maturation for Harry, insight into Neville and Luna's 
characters and situations, and more Quidditch.  Have I left anything 
out?  Surely I have.  But the point is that there just won't be time 
for all that, and in fact not even for most of it.  A lot of these 
points won't be dealt with at all, and many that are dealt with will 
be done in a very straightforward and (to many) simplistic and 
obvious manner. JKR never had time to do all that even in the best of 
worlds, and since OOTP was basically a lot of wheel-spinning in terms 
of advancing toward ultimate answers, she now only has two books to 
shoehorn in what's absolutely necessary.


> 
> Further, R/H is even more definitively foreshadowed in the 
moooovies, 
> and although I know the cry "they just do whatever they want in 
> those, nothing to do with canon", I do not for a moment believe 
that 
> JKK would have permitted the storyline to become so committed to 
R/H 
> if she knows that this would have to be reversed in the remainder 
of 
> the series.

I think the fandom has a tendency to greatly exaggerate JKR's input 
into the movie process.  Authors, even billionaire authors, don't get 
to interfere much in productions mounted by major studios (especially 
when said studios have already acquired all the legal rights they 
need).  Having said that, however, I do think that particular theme 
in the movies (by which we really mean PoA, as CoS had more 
Harry/Hermione hints) does accurately reflect the trend in the books.

> 
> Finally, and to me most convincingly, I do not believe romance will 
> be a major focus of the remaining two books - at most a "light" 
> sidestory.  If that is the case, only the already set up ships R/H 
> and H/G would be able to be played this way -- any other 
alternative 
> would require complexity, exposition and/or unexpected revelations. 
>

Hmmm, I don't know if romance will be all that minor or not.  There 
are multiple ways it could figure heavily in the main storyline (i.e. 
in tieing up various threads and plot points), particularly if Love 
does end up being the key to Voldemort's defeat. And certainly the 
people at Scholastic have implied it's pretty heavy in HBP.  Also I 
think a lot of people put too much stock in JKR's "a little romance" 
comment.  That's merely a figure of speech and could easily mean the 
exact opposite of what it literally says.  All in all, I just don't 
think we have enough evidence to say romance will be a major factor, 
but I don't think there's much justification for the opposite, either.

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