SHIP: Pirate Ginny

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No: HPFGUIDX 133047

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Pat" <5682574 at s...> wrote:
> The trio's out of character behavior was the thing that turned me 
> off the most in HBP. Now I think I see what that's all about, and 
> I've stopped hating this book and Jo.
> 
  We also learn that Ginny never gave up 
> on Harry liking her. She can bold face lie to Molly. She has the 
> guts to ram a commentator at a Quidditch match. She thinks that 
> anything is possible if you have enough nerve. I think she has 
used 
> Love potion on Harry and also Hermione to get Hermione away from 
> Harry, and make Harry fall for her. 



*** That is a very good theory.  But I think it is wrong for a few 
reasons.

    1. Time.  I just don't think that JKR will have the time to 
develop a whole story line about Ginny continuosly slipping Harry 
and Hermione love potions.  I think that she dealt with shipping so 
much in HBP because she knew that she wouldn't have time to deal 
with it in Book 7.

   2. I think that JKR purposefully showed us how a person reacts 
under a love potion so that we would know how to spot it.  Here is 
how Ron reacted:

Harry, I can't stand it!'
'You can't stand what?' asked Harry, now starling to feel definitely 
alarmed. Ron was rather pale and looked as though he was about to be 
sick.
'I can't stop thinking about her!' said Ron hoarsely.

'I don't think she knows I exist,' said Ron with a desperate gesture.

'Romilda Vane,' said Ron softly, and his whole face seemed to 
illuminate as he said it, as though hit by a ray of purest sunlight. 

 Harry, 1 ihink I love her,' said Ron in a strangled voice.

'I love her,' repeated Ron breathlessly. 'Have you seen her hair, 
it's all black and shiny and silky ... and her eyes? Her big dark 
eyes? And her -'
'
Ron's fist was drawn right back, his face was contorted with rage; 
he was about to strike again.

'What was that for?' Harry bellowed.
'You insulted her, Harry! You said it was a joke!' shouted Ron, who 
was slowly turning purple in the face as all the blood rushed to his 
head.
'This is insane!' said Harry. 'What's got into -?'
And then he saw the box lying open on Ron's bed 

Now those were some pretty strong reactions that Ron had when under 
the influence of a love potion.  He couldn't think about anything 
else.

Now here is Harry reacting to Ginny when they have their first kiss:

Harry looked around; there was Ginny running toward him; she had a 
hard, blazing look in her face as she threw her arms around him. And 
without thinking, without planning it, without worrying about the 
fact that fifty people were watching, Harry kissed her.

*** I think this is significant.  Without thinking, he kissed her.  
It was a reaction.  He was acting on his feelings.  He wasn't 
obsessed and thinking to himself that he had to kiss Ginny now or he 
would die.***** 




"After several long moments — or it might have been half an hour — 
or possibly several sunlit days — they broke apart. The room had 
gone very quiet. Then several people wolf-whistled and there was an 
outbreak of nervous giggling. Harry looked over the top of Ginny's 
head to see Dean Thomas holding a shattered glass in his hand, and 
Romilda Vane looking as though she might throw something. Hermione 
was beaming, but Harry's eyes sought Ron. At last he found him, 
still clutching the Cup and wearing an expression appropriate to 
having been clubbed over the head. For a fraction of a second they 
looked at each other, then Ron gave a tiny jerk of the head that 
Harry understood to mean, Well—if you must."


*** I think this is also important.  He was very conscious of 
everyone in the room.  He noticed all their reactions and was even 
seeking Ron's approval.  That is very important.  He wanted Ron's 
approval.  When Ron was under the influence of a love potion, he 
wanted to hex Harry for an insult about a girl he didn't know.  He 
was obbsessed and there is no way he would have tried to seek 
approval from anyone.  In this intance, Harry is seeking Ron's 
approval and noticing the reactions of everyone else in the room.  I 
believe that if he was under the influence of a love potion than the 
only thing on his mind would have been Ginny.****



3.  A couple of other reasons I think that this theory is wrong:
      a. Hermione is too smart.  She would know if something like 
this was going on.

     b.  There were never any moments where Ginny handed Hermione or 
Harry food or a drink that I can remember that would leave us a clue 
that this was happening.

    c.  It would be very hard for Ginny to continuely slip Harry a 
love potion.  And I say continuely because we are told that they 
wear off.  She does not live in his dorm room with him and Harry was 
on his own a lot away from the other students,(with Dumbledore, in 
detention, tracking Malfoy, etc.)


I know a lot of people weren't happy about the shipping in this 
book, but I think that it's best to just accept it and focus on the 
story itself.

-joe