HBP Theories
Kathryn Jones
kjones at telus.net
Tue Jul 19 20:38:54 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 133154
Kathy writes:
Rhianynthe cat:
> Has anyone else wondered if the reason DD trusts Snape so unshakably is
> because Severus has taken an Unbreakable Vow to him?
Rhianynthecat
KJ
I agree that Snape has taken a Wizard's Oath to Dumbledore as I feel
that Snape's need for Dumbledore's approval, and the need to destroy
Voldemort is more powerful than Snape's fear of death. Considering
Snape's choices in all of this, I think he took the Unbreakable Vow for
Narcissa knowing full well he would die for it. I think that is what
caused the jerk in his hand. He never had any intention of killing
Dumbledore. Dumbledore forced him into it. I think he wants to be dead,
now more than ever.
KJ
Devon:
> Do you think Voldemort knows about the diary? After all, it contained
> a portion of his soul, but not the portion that is in his body. I
> don't know if there are connections between the soul pieces in each
> Horcrux, but even if there are, I don't think Voldemort would
> inherently know that two of them have been destroyed. He's not so
> good with the gut feelings...or any feelings in general, really.
Devon
KJ
On page 474 of HBP, Dumbledore explains to Harry that Voldemort had
no knowledge of the destruction of the diary until he forced the truth
out of Malfoy. He apparently was furious. This would also indicate that
Snape is bringing everything back to Dumbledore from the DE meetings. It
is also interesting to note that Lucius did not know what it really was.
KJ
Irene:
> That's the question that plagues me. One of the
> biggest obstacles on the way to fully accept the Grand
> Dumbledore Plan theory. What can Snape offer from his
> position of Voldie's golden boy in book 7?
Irene
KJ
If we accept that Snape is "Dumbledore's man all the way" as well,
then he is in the perfect position. Voldemort must have been ready to
kiss him on his return. Snape is now in the perfect position to poison
Nagini should that become necessary. As Bella has perhaps been given one
of Voldemort's little keepsakes, Snape may be granted one to look after.
Snape is also in the perfect position to gradually poison Voldemort's
latest body. I am also convinced that Dumbledore would not have thrown
Snape so completely to the wolves. I am sure that information has been
sent or will be sent to Aberforth and Harry to enable Snape to continue
spying. Snape may be the only wizard powerful enough to remove the
horcrux from Harry. Dumbledore did perform that little test on Harry
perhaps to determine if the two souls were totally separate. If worst
comes to worst, Snape is also the only one mean enough and capable of
killing Harry, should that become necessary. If Dumbledore has no
difficulty giving up his own life, I don't think he would hesitate for a
minute giving up Snape's soul. In fact, if the vow or oath that Snape
gave Dumbledore had to do with protecting Harry, this would also mean
Snape's death. I believe that death is now Snape's only option. He must
choose his time as did Dumbledore.
KJ
If any of you have lasted through this, what really bothers me is
Snape's family. His mother was a witch and his father a muggle. How do
we reconcile this with Snape's pride in his family. If the memory we
saw in OotP was Snape's father and mother, it would make no sense. He
sees magic as all powerful. He is proud of being a Prince. If his
mother was totally cowering as a result of a muggle's threats, how could
he be proud of that. I wonder if Snape's father also left his mother,
and if the scene we saw was Snape's grandfather, still punishing his
mother for marrying a muggle. Snape was raised magically, knew more Dark
Arts than anyone, was extremely magically advanced. This would indicate
more power over Snape by the Prince side of the family than by the Snape
side to me. They apparently did not treat him well because he was a
half-blood. He may have been forced to take the Mark by his grandfather
rather than any true inclination of his own. The similarities between
Harry, Voldemort and Snape have been increasing throughout the books.
The thing that really bugs me, which some of you might have bumped
into by now, and have not responded to is this: the whole of the
comments made by Dumbledore as he was drinking the potion. To me, it
sounded like Snape's worst memories, including one remark that was
almost word for word one that Harry heard his mother screaming the night
of the GH attack. Could Dumbledore have been a repository for Snape's
really worst memories, which were replayed by the potion. It just
doesn't sound like anything that Dumbledore would have been sorry for or
done, but it does sound like all of the really bad moments in Snape's
earlier years. Apparently pensives are not all that secure in Hogwarts.
This would also explain Dumbledore's complete faith in Snape.
KJ
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