[HPforGrownups] Snape's created curses (Was: Re: HBP thoughts)

[IreneMikhlin]

No: HPFGUIDX 133261

nrenka wrote:

> 
> Well, if we took Snape's opening speech in Potions as to show his 
> love for that subject, what about his opening speech in DADA? :)

Er, that he loves the defence against the dark arts? ;-)

> 
> So, here's the question:
> 
> Where did James learn those curses from?  
> 
> The most obvious answer seems to be: he either saw them used on other 
> people, potentially himself and/or some of his friends.  There's no 
> way that James would have gotten ahold of Snape's prized book.

I'm not sure about that. I still insist that they were bullies, and 
that's such a typical bully thing to do - grab somebody's school bag, 
the books. Especially if they've noticed that Snape writes in the book 
in a secretive way, or seems to treasure it.

> 
> It's the question of whether a memory can be tampered with or not, 
> and whether it's obvious when one has been.  DD knows that Slugworth 
> has tampered, but is it possible that Snape did so as well, just more 
> skillfully?

But it only makes sense if he wanted Harry to see the (modified) memory. 
I was never convinced that it was the case.

> 
> I really wonder: is there, in the inherent morality of the 
> Potterverse, something inherenly wrong about using AK at all 
> whatsoever?  I don't know.  But with the discussion of how killing 
> someone can be used to shear off part of your soul, it's very 
> suggestive.

Yes, but I believe there are some circumstances... I don't think 
Dumbledore had defeated Grindewald by smiling at him, for example.

And the original argument was extremely naive: if your organisation 
wants to embed a mole within the enemy ranks, you want this mole to 
climb as high as he can. You can't say to him in the end: you've been 
very useful, but "way too much blood on your hands and you should pay 
for it".

> 
> I'd really like to not believe in ESE!Snape. 

Same here. But I can't argue the Grand Plan theory with 100% conviction.

> 
> But isn't it suggestive that by far the most parallel characters in 
> the book are Snape and young Tom Riddle?

I would say the three of them are very parallel now: Harry, Tom Riddle 
and Snape.

Irene
-- 
Disclaimer: if the things in HBP are just what they
seem, then Snape is on his way to the last circle of
Hell, to take his rightful place between Judas and
Brutus, and nothing to discuss.
So I'm only arguing on the conditional probability of
him not being ESE, and acting on Dumbledore's orders
somehow.