New leader of the Order (Snape with Fawkes?)

[sjd914]

No: HPFGUIDX 133386

Note: I have left this here so you can read Rehan's theory if 
you haven't already, while snipping some irrelevant things. 
You can just scroll down if you are familiar with the theory. 

REHAN:

<snip> 
> I am throwing my hat in with those who think that Snape is a 
> quadruple agent - that is, he is really still loyal to the Order.  > I am writing this with the assumption he is a good guy, or else 
> the rest of the post won't really be relevant.  <snip>

<snip> 
 
> Then I saw this quote, which provides what I believe to be 
> support for the most amazing plot twist in the entire Harry 
> Potter series.  This is from the cub reporter interview:
> 
> Peter Humphreys for BBC Newsround. - Who did Fawkes previously 
> belong to and will he play a vital role in the next book?
> 
> JK Rowling: I am not going to answer about the role in the next 
> books, which probably gives you a big clue, and he has never 
> been owned by anyone but Dumbledore. You will notice that when 
> Harry goes back in the Pensieve in this book, Fawkes is never 
> there, and no, I am sorry, not in this book, I take that back. 
> When Harry has previously seen the study with a different 
> headmaster he saw it with Dippet and Fawkes was not there then. 
> Fawkes is Dumbledore's possession, not a Hogwarts possession. 
> 
> What is the full name of the Order?  The Order of the PHOENIX.  
> (All indications point to the phoenix being Fawkes.)  We saw 
> Fawkes leaving Hogwarts at the end of HBP.  JKR's quote above 
> strongly suggests that Fawkes will have a significant role in 
> book 7, and she makes a point of noting that he belongs to 
> Dumbledore, not Hogwarts.
> 
> When I read the quote, I began thinking of what role Fawkes 
> could have.  What if Dumbledore had ordered Fawkes to remain 
> loyal to Snape after his death?  (We certainly know Snape could
> use the healing effect of phoenix song with all the dirty work 
> he has to do.)  Then, Snape uses this as "proof" that he is 
> still a good guy to get back in the good graces of the Order.  
> They will likely believe this, as everyone knows that phoenixes 
> don't trust dark wizards and are only loyal to the good guys, 
> etc.  Finally, since it is the Order of the Phoenix, whoever 
> Fawkes is loyal to might be the default leader of the group.  
> Snape does seem to know many things that the rest of the Order 
> does not.
<snip>

Sajid:
I deleted much of the support for this theory, and just left its
description.

I have lurked for a very very long time (I think it might have 
even been pre GoF, but definitely very soon after it). (I have made 
a few posts on various names, however.) I have been a fan even longer, from about a few weeks before the US launch of PoA. Anyway, on to the more important actual HP stuff...

I think this theory makes a lot of sense and solves many problems 
in one tidy theory, that makes a lot of sense (if you believe Snape 
is good, of course). Another interesting tidbit I heard from a 
poster Fiction Alley (who responded to this exact post from the 
same person):

"This sounds like the old tale about how Roman leaders got chosen--
if a bird flew over them or landed on them or something, they were *it.* So do you think Fawkes went to go find Snape (or whoever will become the new leader of the OotP), and if Snape shows up with 
Fawkes on his shoulder everyone will go "well, that's him: he's got the bird," and that will be that?

-- thephoenixsoared"

This adds a bit more credibility to the theory; we all know JKR 
loves stuffing her books with historical allusions.

When you talked about the song's healing powers, I assume you mean
emotional healing (though I'm sure the physical healing powers of 
the tears will also come in handy). This emotional healing seemed 
more like filling Harry with a new resolve when Fawkes sung it in 
the CoS (I dont have a copy with me, I am away from home. Hopefully one of you can find out how exactly JKR describes it). Thinking 
about this brought me to another theory about Fawkes, relating to 
how Harry might use his power of "Heart" to defeat Voldemort.

The pheonix song in CoS could have been filling Harry with more 
heart, to help him defeat Tom. Dumbledore would have known that 
this was a strength of Harry's and it is definately his style to 
just send him Fawkes (though of course, Fawkes may have just been drawn to Harry because of loyalty, which could be related to 
Heart.) Perhaps Fawkes will show up again in Harry's last fight against Voldemort to help him use his one advantage over him more effectively.

Hmm... this makes me think of another thing. What if instead of 
coming to Snape, Fawkes comes to Harry (perhaps anointing him the leader of the Order?) This would let Fawkes help him in all his 
tasks ahead of him.  This leaves the problem of Snape showing his loyalty somewhat unsolved, but I guess Fawkes could still show his loyalty to Snape even if hes owned by Harry. However, if Harry does become the leader of the Order (which I admit, is unlikely in the first place), it worsens the Snape problem because Harry would be 
the hardest person to convince. The best way to get around that is 
to have someone like Moody believe him, who will make Harry accept (albiet grudgingly) to accept Snape.

- Sajid