SHIP: Pirate Ginny (Something is not right)

[paul_terzis]

No: HPFGUIDX 133395

>sienna wrote:
> Hi Adagio, I understand the reasons you say that but I'd like to 
> point out that one thing HBP has clearly demonstrated is that 
> everyone brings an inherent bias in one way or another to the book. 
> (e.g. the least critical fans are likely to be those who have been 
> rooting for H/G to happen and don't care how or why) Which I think is 
> ironic, given one the main themes of the book is about the way we 
> perceive things to be.
> 
> You are correct in thinking that I did not expect (nor want) H/G. But 
> that said, I was open to the possibility of it happening. The thing 
> that threw me was not that it happened (or that Harry developed 
> feelings) but the way it happened, the abruptness with which the 
> subplot was delivered, and the way the behaviour of the trio changed 
> to allow for it.
> 
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> * Harry was expressive, eloquent and composed. This, despite it only 
> being two weeks between the end of OotP and the start of HBP. 
> Sirius's death hardly registers. Why?
> * Hermione, where are you Hermione? I can understand hormones, but 
> Hermione acts out of character. It is one thing to be 16. It is 
> another to go from retiring to aggressive in one book. It is like she 
> becomes obsessed very shortly after the potions lesson. It's like 
> they all did.
> * Suddenly everyone is snogging out in the open. In no previous books 
> do the trio ever catch an older student in the common room. There is 
> a small reference to Ginny catching Percy and Penelope in the broom 
> closet in CoS but that is it.
> * Harry kisses Ginny in front of 50 people in the common room despite 
> being awkward and embarrassed with Cho just the year before
> * Harry should not have been able to take potions but coincidentally 
> is able to when Snape gets the DADA job – despite Dumbledore 
> admitting he didn't trust him up until then to do it? We are never 
> given a reason why. Contrivance or something more subtle?
> * There is hardly any talk of classes, many things are entirely 
> missing. Things we have come to expect and love about Hogwarts are no 
> longer referred to. Where was McGonnagal? We only see her once. Where 
> was Ron chewing with his mouth full. In fact, we hardly ever see them 
> eating. Ron and Harry don't play chess once.
> * Harry's scar doesn't hurt him and barely gets referred to. He is 
> not affected when Slughorn stares at it.
> * Harry's glasses are not broken despite Malfoy stepping on his face. 
> Hermione doesn't even visit him when he is in Hospital after the 
> Quidditch match(absolutely the first time that's ever happened). 
> From being the first at his side, her obsession to be with Ron 
> suddenly takes over.
> * Hermione and Ginny argue over Harry – when have these two ever had 
> a foul word? Why doesn't Hermione respond to Ginny's rather rude 
> attack? Why does Ginny feel the need to protect her territory?
> * Even Hermione and Ron's courting rituals seemed off-kilter.
> * Ginny could do no wrong. Her Bat Bogey Hex is referred to more than 
> once and she is literally thrown in the readers face. When has JKR 
> ever lacked subtlety? It wasn't believeable - it was Mary Sue. That 
> strikes me as far too amateur to be right. Everything between them is 
> perfect – perfect understanding, perfectly attractive, perfectly 
> funny, perfectly popular, perfectly charming. There are purposeful, 
> in-your-face parallels drawn between Lily and Ginny. But their ending 
> was off-kilter. Why does he not tell her about the prophecy? Why does 
> he not protest when Ron and Hermione say they are coming with him if 
> he's intent on going on alone? Aren't Ron and Hermione at *more* risk 
> than Ginny? Would he care less if they died? Why does Ginny only 
> manage a `twisted' smile and not shed a tear over their breakup?
> * Lavendar suddenly interested in Ron? Since when?
> * Dumbledore
 oh Dumbledore
 so much strangeness here. Why wear the 
> ring after damaging your hand trying to destroy the holocrux?
> 
> And there is much more. The only thing that makes sense to me is that 
> there is something afoul in Hogwarts and that it has been embedded 
> with a subtlety that is startling. It has something to do with Snape 
> and LV's desire to eliminate Dumbeldore and Snape's knowledge of 
> Harry and his friends. The trio are almost entirely out of whack with 
> each other the entire year, until the very end. And then, when Harry 
> looks forward to spending a peaceful day with Ron and Hermione at 
> Bill's wedding, he doesn't have a thought in his head about the fact 
> that Ginny will also be there.
> 
> Unless you are committed to the ships as they occurred in HBP, then 
> you can't help but notice the very many strange things about this 
> book. I think it is all too coincidental that there are many 
> references to potions (love, luck etc), the Dementors breeding (a 
> creature that is all about mind-control), song lyrics about 
> cauldron's and love, mist, so much out of character behaviour.
> 
> Consider this quote from Snape regarding potions in Book 1: 
> 
> "As there is little foolish wand-waving here, many of you will hardly 
> believe this is magic. I don't expect you will really understand the 
> beauty of the softly simmering cauldron with its shimmering fumes, 
> the delicate power of liquids that creep through human veins, 
> bewitching the mind, ensnaring the senses....
> 
> Bewitching the mind. Ensnaring the sense. Doesn't it seem to reflect 
> what HBP is all about?
> 
> I could be wrong. It's happened before. :) And like I said, I think 
> it is either a badly written and delivered book or a work of sheer 
> brilliance and subtlety.
> 

Hello to everyone. Sienna I couldn't agree more. The HBP gave me the
impression that we transfered to an alternative dimension(universe)
from that of OOTP.

1) Harry Potter is very very mild almost in nirvana. Ceddrik's death
resulted in OOTP(angry) Harry. Siriou's (who happens to be a closest
person to Harry) death reesulted in HBP Harry. Is this logical to you?

2) Hermione my favourite character is another example. Suddenly she
ignores Harry's warnings. She doesn't even visit him in the hospital
like Sienna said before.  Hello! Where is Hermione that stands beside
Harry no matter what throughout the five first books (no shipping
meaning). Is this logical to you?

3) After reading the scene where AD met for the first time with LV I
was really puzzled. My God LV as 11 year old boy without any guidance
and training already controls animals and is adept in wandless magic.
HP is destined to fight him and what AD is doing to help Harry. He
just shows him memories from the past. And what about training? Just
the scholl stuff. Is that logical to you?

4) Harry's actions and prowess in magic is also a confusing issue. He
is totally kicked in the ass in HBP. He is almost inept in duelling
when in OOTP shines against multiple DE's. Do you also want to comment
on the scene in the train when Draco flattened him literally? 

5) Harry and Ginny issue. OK I accept that hormones talks now. This is
logical. But can you explain the scene where Ginny and Dean were
cought red-handed by Ron and Harry? Do you honestly believe that after
five years and a summer without any serious interaction between them
(not even close friends) Harry fall in love suddenly with Ginny. I can
understand love on first sight (like with Cho in third year) or even a
scenario that gradually they falling in love with each other
throughout mayby OOTP and now HBP. But what really happened was out of
the blue ( "Hallelujah! I can see! I saw the truth! I am in love with
Ginny.", Harry  says). Comments anyone? 

6) Jealousy is a powerful emotion and can alter someones behaviour
thats a fact. That can explain the whole Hermione and ......(OK enough
distance for now) Ron(Important notes: I hate that character with
every fiber of my being. He has every vice that I can't stand and I
don't want to mention right now, because it is not my intention to try
him or start a flaming debate about him with you my fellow group
members. I only state my personal opinion and I don't like to pretend
that I like that character)  interaction. She seems to return his
feelings and may end up together ( This is too hard for me to say it
because I was, I am and I will always be a fanatic H/Hr shipper). What
it bothers me (not only the obvious reason people) is that Hermione
lost any self-control. Provided that she has a crush with Ron since
the book 4, Hermione seems to keep her crush well under control even
until the beginning of the HBP. Suddenly from the composed, logical
and expert to the relationship psychology Hermione she degenerate into
the HBP!Hermione (almost the exact opposite of her previous self). Yes
hormones and Jealousy can alter the human behaviour but to such an
extent (a total transformation of character in such a short time). Is
that logical?  Maybe to you is logical but for me it isn't.

Please I expect your comments about Sienna's and mine comments for HBP
and not about my personal opinion about Ron or my choice of Shipping.

Yours trully,
Paul