ESE!Lupin? (was: Re: Snape is Innocent!)

[jjjjjuliep]

No: HPFGUIDX 133514

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> Pippin:
> > > I am proud to report that ESE!Lupin theory is alive and
> > > kicking. Lupin as liason to the werewolves is confirmed,
> > > he considers them his equals, he provides some more
> > > information on dementors, and he tells Tonks he's too
> > > dangerous for her. I'm a happy woman today. But
> 
> Julie:
> > I think Lupin tells Tonks he is too dangerous for her because 
> > he's a werewolf and could possibly hurt her.  It's his love for 
> > her that causes him to be so protective of her.  #6's biggest 
> > theme is that of sacrifice for the ones you love.  Lupin's 
> > relunctance to accept Tonks' love was his denying his heart's 
> > desire for her.  
> > 
> > I also don't understand how his working for the Order by running
> > with werewolves proves he is evil.

> Pippin:
> The theory is that Lupin's motives for joining
> the DE's are political.  HBP confirms that he has come to identify
> with other werewolves, perhaps more than with fellow wizards, 
> and that Umbridge and her like are so firmly  entrenched  in the 
> Ministry that  even if Voldemort is  defeated, werewolves would 
> still be gravely oppressed. 

I'm still confused. ;-)  

First, is there any canon evidence that politics plays a role for any 
of the Order?  

I personally think that JKR has quite carefully set up a world where 
everyone involved with any sort of politics at all (Voldemort and the 
Death Eaters, and just about everyone (but not everyone) connected 
with the Ministry of Magic) is deliberately and explicitly contrasted 
with the Order.  Everyone in the DE and most people in the Ministry 
operate for reasons other than the Greater Good and operate according 
to personal agendas which involve, almost exclusively, power.  In 
contrast, the Order operates according to love:  platonic and 
brotherly love of each other, filial love of the students, and an 
ideal love of Good.  DD speaks exactly to this in HBP.  

This is why I think as much as I also think it will ruin the overall 
dramatic and literary power of Snape's betrayal, we will see that 
Snape did what he did to serve the Greater Good, and that he did so 
in keeping with the theme of personal sacrifice for that Greater Good.

Second, is there any canon evidence that Lupin, as a member of the 
Order, is likely to put his personal feelings ahead of the greater 
good?  In fact, I think his denial of his love for Tonks shows how 
willing he is to sublimate his individual desires to the Greater Good.

> I believe parallel to the question of what would make a nasty git
> like Snape serve Dumbledore, Jo is dealing with the question of 
> what would make a kind and decent person choose Voldemort, and 
> establishing that Lupin is indeed capable of love is part of that. 
> 
> Of course there won't be proof till Book Seven, if ever. But I'm
> about 99% certain now.

It's entirely possible, and I know that a lot of the fun of the books 
is speculating what is going to happen next.  ;-)  But, IMO, while 
the books are very carefully layered in terms of the plot and plot 
mechanisms, they are, and I believe very deliberately so on the part 
of JKR, not as character-ly layered.  Again I know it's fun to 
speculate and I know that that is a special element of this list ;-), 
so my comments are only a reflection of my own feelings that 
sometimes we go looking too deep into the books for things which we 
wish might be there are but definitely aren't there in reality.  I 
also think one of the possible consequence for a lot of folks in book 
#7 is the threat of a great disappointment b/c JKR's story arc is 
very different than the one they are personally constructing.  IMO 
she's definitely following the epic/quest structure, and that 
sacrifices character to plot.  

I personally do not think anyone in the Order will, in the end, have 
done anything that does not move Harry's quest in the right 
direction:  toward the destruction of Evil and the triumph of Good 
(even if it sometimes looks different before the final battle).

jujube