HBP Theories

jjjjjuliep jjjjjulie at aol.com
Wed Jul 20 18:26:03 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 133540

[all previous stuff kept for context]

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Jones <kjones at t...> 
wrote:
> jjjjjuliep wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Jones <kjones at t...> 
wrote:
> > 
> >  >    The thing that really bugs me, which some of you might have
> >  > bumped into by now, and have not responded to is this: the 
> >  > whole of the comments made by Dumbledore as he was drinking 
> >  > the potion.  To me, it sounded like Snape's worst memories,
> >  > including one remark that was almost word for word one that 
> >  > Harry heard his mother screaming the night of the GH attack.
> >  > Could Dumbledore have been a repository for Snape's really 
> >  > worst memories, which were replayed by the potion.  It just
> >  > doesn't sound like anything that Dumbledore would have been 
> >  > sorry for or done, but it does sound like all of the really 
> >  > bad moments in Snape's earlier years. Apparently
> >  > pensives are not all that secure in Hogwarts.
> >  > This would also explain Dumbledore's complete faith in Snape.
> > 
> > I'm not sure why the potion in the cave would have anything to 
> > do with Snape, or why Dumbledore, upon drinking it, would channel 
> > any of Snape's memories?
>    jjjjjuliep
> 
> Kathy writes:
>     BUT if Dumbledore was sending Snape back to Voldemort, he must
> have known that there was a chance that he would see everything in 
> Snape's mind. Obviously, pensives are not terribly secure around 
> Harry. I think DD is hiding everything he needs to in his own 
> head.  We have seen him place memories in his head before. Don't 
> you think it is an enticing theory when you compare the 
> comment "Not that, not that, I'll do anything" to what Harry hears 
> his mother say when he is attacked by dementors, "not Harry! Not 
> Harry! Please-I'll do anything-"  I also think that these memories 
> as well as others have been sent back to Snape now that he 
> has "proven himself beyond all doubt"

But the liquid (whatever it was) in the bowl in the cave was put 
there by someone else, not Snape or DD.  We have no evidence that 
Snape ever was in that cave.  As far as we know, from what JKR has 
told us, only Voldemort as a child with 2 children, and Voldemort as 
a young man, and "RAB" had been there before Harry and Dumbledore. 

Also, we have no evidence that Snape asked DD to hold any of his 
memories in his own head (in fact, I don't think JKR has told us that 
such a thing was even possible).  And even if he had, how did he get 
the memories back to Snape before Snape killed him?  See, and this is 
my own personal opinion only, I don't think that books are that over-
complicated.  Some things are definitely not what they seem, yes, but 
generally JKR puts forth the important things to us in a 
straightforward way.

So it seems most likely, to me at least, that the feelings or images 
that the liquid produced were somehow related directly to Voldemort, 
and I'm guessing those of his victims.

jujube








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