Reposted: TBAY: Amanda Binns Explains It All
amanitamuscaria1
saraandra at saraandra.plus.com
Thu Jul 21 11:05:09 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 133799
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...>
wrote:
lots of snip
Lily's love was transmuted into a
> protection.
bigsnipagain
But Jan continued. Flamel. Flamel was to
> > set his affairs in order and then he would die. Ah, but here we
are
> talking
> > about the achiever of the Stone, the one who has achieved the
higher state
> > of being. Here is one who is also dying willingly for a noble
cause. Has
> his
> > love or purity of purpose, I wonder, been transmuted into any
other type
> of
> > protective spell? A very good thought by Jan.
> >
> > And now here comes Cindy with this ludicrous disloyalty idea
about Snape.
> > But the reason she gives--that Dumbledore has to die, and being
betrayed
> is
> > the only way--hmmm. Dumbledore has to die, eh? Yeah, I agree, he
probably
> > will. But if Jan is right, and there is a charm or spell that can
> transmute
> > a willing and loving death into a powerful protection, I can see
another
> way
> > Dumbledore could exit. A very likely way.
> > ----------------------------
>
> "Okay," the Geist continued, making another chilly pass through
everyone to
> wake them up, "here's two parts, then:
>
> "1. A willing death can be a part of an extremely powerful spell.
> "2. We already thought Dumbledore was likely to die, simply for
> character-development reasons; Jan offers a reason--for the
furtherance of
> defenses, achievable in no other way.
>
Anotherbigsnip
> > Harry's protection, the reason he survived, was not simply that
Lily died
> > for him, but that her willing sacrifice was the final element of
a spell
> > that created the strong protection. What if Snape, having access
to the
> > wizard likely to throw that spell, and access to Dumbledore, was
> > instrumental in crafting that spell?
> >
> > The other willing death we have seen, or that was strongly
intimated, is
> > Flamel's himself. And what if a willing sacrifice *can* be
incorporated
> into
> > a strong protective spell, and what if Dumbledore and Snape *are*
working
> on
> > that.....? And what if Snape's task is to seem to betray
Dumbledore, whose
> > own willing death will be a component in Voldemort's defeat?
'notherbigsnip
> --The spell, whatever it is, to which Dumbledore's death is
integral, will
> have been completed (or nearly so).
Now AmanitaMuscaria:
Agreed. What if the spell requires these sacrifices? They all are
then, part of the same, ever-building protection for Harry. Whatif
they are all part of an anti-Horcrux? Tie it in with the 'love'
protection, and you might have the sacrifices equalling the breaking
of one's own soul into pieces, except what you get is the augmenting
of Harry's soul and ability to love? An echo, almost, of the fountain
of magical bretheren leaping one by one in front of Dumbledore?
>
> "These are key because Snape will now be in a *superb* position to
implement
> or otherwise set in motion or effect, the spell. Having a
tremendous spell
> ready is of no use at all, if the spell cannot be cast or
implemented due to
> lack of access. Access is of no use without a weapon. Snape will
have both
> the access and the means."
snipsnipsnip
> ~Amanda
AmanitaMuscaria again - So the final bit of the spell/potion/whatever
is to be put in place, and Snape is in the ideal position to do it.
Exactly.
To me, the idea of a big explosions, lots of blood and gore finale
would have little impact - I don't think that's how JKR works. So, as
in this book, the DeathMark appears, but the death happens
afterwards. It's much more impactful.
Waiting for the next book.
AmanitaMuscaria
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