[HPforGrownups] RE: Vanishing Cabinet/Flint?

[Vivamus]

No: HPFGUIDX 133904

> > Am I to believe that Montague Apparated into the shop, and 
> then in his 
> > near-dead state went back to Hogwarts, hid in a toilet, and 
> pretended 
> > not to remember how he got there--just to conceal the passage to 
> > Borgin's?  This seems overly elaborate to me and makes me wonder 
> > whether this is a Flint.
> >
> > Kelly L.
> 
> 
> Vivamus said:
> 
> "I assume that when he was in the Vanishing Cabinet, he 
> wasn't actually IN Hogwarts, so the anti-apparation spell 
> wouldn't have applied.  He could apparate out of the cabinet. 
>  Since he wasn't actually OUTSIDE Hogwarts, either, he could 
> in fact apparate from inside the vanished cabinet to inside 
> Hogwarts, bypassing the protection.  This is supported by the 
> link made between the two cabinets once the one that Peeves 
> smashed was repaired.  So he apparated out of the cabinet 
> into the toilet, where he got stuck and nearly died (drowned?)."
> 
> 
> How?  They had to remove the protection from the great hall 
> just so the students could apparate from spot to spot within 
> the room.  You simply - as we have been told over and over by 
> Hermione and Snape - cannot apparate/disapparate within 
> Hogwarts.  Whether Montague was in the cabinet within 
> Hogwarts he still could not have apparated out of it because one
> *cannot* apparate/disapparate within the castle.  "As you may 
> know, it is usually impossible to Aparate or Disapparate 
> within Hogwarts.  The Heamaster has lifted this enchantment, 
> purely within the Great Hall, for one hour, so as to enable 
> you to practice." HBP 359 (Canadian version)
> 
> CathyD


Vivamus:

Again, he was NOT inside of Hogwarts when he was inside the cabinet, so the
spells against apparation within Hogwarts did not apply to him.  But, he
ALSO was not OUTside the grounds, either, so any spells protecting against
apparating IN would not apply, either.  The two cabinets effectively create
a wormhole that bypasses the enchantments.  DD was surprised by the
cleverness of Malfoy's plan in connecting B&B's shop with the castle -- it
clearly bypassed his enchantments to protect the grounds from invasion.  It
was a way for something evil to get into the castle without facing the
enchantments.  The same logic applies to Montague's supposed apparation.  He
wasn't inside the grounds, so spells against apparating inside didn't apply,
and he wasn't outside the grounds, so spells against apparating from outside
in didn't apply.

Oddly enough, house elves seem to have no problem apparating within
Hogwarts, but that doesn't seem to be related, here.

Vivamus