there's more to HP than the ship

Milz absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Fri Jul 22 00:52:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 133987

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "casmir2012" <casmir2012 at y...>
wrote:
> RMM says:
> 
> I have looked on the RHr ship as a childhood crush that would soon 
> > dissolve to make way for a budding romance between HHr.
> > But Jo has shut this idea down most emphatically.
> > In Book Six, Hermione is literally shoved out of the way and made 
> to 
> > look like a second rate character.  I was disappointed by that as 
> > well.
> > Granted, the books are about Harry Potter, and it is LOVE that is 
> > going to be key in defeating Voldemort.
> > But Harry-Ginny?  What kind of spark will that produce?
> > Especially now that he has dumped her?
> > 
> > Hope that helps you understand us HHr shippers a little better.
> 
> Casmir-
> 
> That's the best and most reasonable explanation I have heard for a 
> H/HR relationship.  I was never able to see it that way because I 
> knew Harry would have to do it alone in the end.  That means, 
> whatever he gets from Hermione in his younger days (answers, 
> thinking, spells, etc) he would have to learn to produce for 
> himself.  Not only does this lessen dependency on her, but becomes a 
> competitive thing for Hermione's ego or self esteem.  (and yes, I 
> think that was discernable early on.)
> 
> There is no doubt that H and Hr have respected each other, which 
> makes for a great friendship....but for romance..there has to be that 
> spark.
> 
> (for those that think harmony is the only thing necessary, I could 
> tell you of three couples who got divorced over the last 2 years that 
> never founght once.  They married because they were good friends, so 
> why not.)
> 
> The fact that Ron and Hr spark at times shows there's alchemy going 
> on!
> 
> ~Casmir

First off, I'm not into the Shipping Forecasts. imo, if I want to read
romance novels, I'd read Jackie Collins, not Jo Rowling.

Secondly, I've read Penny's stuff---she used to frequent this Group
the same time I used to several years ago. So I'm not about to re-read
it again. BTW, Steve VanderArk the owner of the Lexicon was also an
active member of this forum at that time too. :) 

Thirdly, the question is love. Love isn't romance. Love is what Harry
showed for Ginny when he ended that relationship. To say he "dumped"
her is true, but it's also disingenuous. "Dumping" her would be more
along the lines of what Lavender did to Ron or what Ginny did to Dean.
Harry and Ginny both agreed to this dissolution. And here was Harry's
reason:

"Voldemort uses people his enemies are close to. He's already used you
once, and that was just because you're my best friends's sisteer.
think how much danger you'll be in if we keep this up. He'll know,
he'll find out. He'll try and get to me through you."

And in the following passages he admits that he cares for Ginny and
doesn't want to see her harmed for his sake. This is alot different
than Harry saying, "I think we need to see other people. It's been
fun, but I really need my space, babe." 

Anyhow, as Casmir alluded, best friends doesn't automatically mean
love-match. 

Milz (who doesn't like Ships of any sort and would prefer to stay away
from the water.)








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