cryptic remarks by DD at tower + the Dumbeldore making a horcrux NOT!

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 22 09:57:09 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 134090

 Julie H wrote:
> Here's my last post of the day -- maybe someone already commented on  
> this, I haven't read all of what's been put up here today (though a 
> lot of it).
> Was anyone else struck by Dumbledore's weird conversation with Draco 
> at the top of the tower (chapter 27, page 590 in the American 
> edition)?
> DD and Malfoy are sorting out the evening's prior events (dark mark, 
> etc) and Malfoy says (of his communication with Rosmerta):
> "..She said you were just going for a drink, you'd be back."
> 
> "Well, I certainly did have a drink ... and I came back .... after a 
> fashion," mumbled Dumbledore. "So you decided to spring a trap for 
> me?"
> "We decided to put the Dark Mark over the tower and get you to hurry  
> up here, to see who'd been killed," said Malfoy. "And it worked!"
> 
> "Well .... yes and no ...." said Dumbledore.
> 
> Now -- what's all this "after a fashion" and "yes and no" stuff? I  
> don't think DDore's "lost it" from potion drinking (he is weak, but 
> no evidence that he's addled, right up to the point he gets AK'd). 
> What does he mean that he came back "after a fashion???"


Valky:
Not sure if this helps but, "after a fashion" is a common saying in
British sort of English. 

I think, it means after a pretty short amount of time. Fashion, in
this context, I believe, refers to "fads" (pop fashions) and umm
"hypes" short lived, very exciting things.. like the life of
fashions.. I think that's what it means. Check me if I am wrong any
true brits out there.. 

 
> Julie H:
> And what does he mean  by saying "yes and no" 

Valky:
I think, we should take that literally. Yes to the first No to the
second, it is very likely, I am sure, that the sophisticated wit that
Jo has given Dumbledore is of the certain type that reads this way.
Dumbledore is demonstrating that he's focussed and listening, and that
he hasn't missed a thing. 


> (I don't have any yet personally, but there is something very 
> strange about the language here, a definite "more than meets the 
> eye" sort of thing.)



Yeah there is definitely more than it seems going on up there. 

Valky (just wanting to mention two things from PS/SS.)

1. The Astronomy Tower is the tallest tower of Hogwarts, very very
high up, and the place where the Trio took Norbert to give him to
Charlie's friends. 

2. I think Jo made it very clear from the very first chapter of the
series, Dumbledore does not make Horcruxes.. Slug says it's the
darkest of dark magic, and in PS/SS Chapter 1. Dumbledore admits, to
Macgonagall, that there are powers he will never have, I wouldn't
hesitate to assume that Dumbledore Horcruxes were ruled out there and
then.
 

 








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