[HPforGrownups] The Cave
digger
altered.earth at ntlworld.com
Fri Jul 22 19:07:32 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 134203
Cathy Drolet wrote:
> I may have missed this while I was off-list avoiding spoilers. If it has already been discussed then forgive me, list-elves!
>
> These are DD's words, spoken in the Chapter "The Cave" while he was being force-fed potion by HP.
>
> "I don't want...don't make me
> Don't like ... want to stop
> No. I don't want to ... I don't want to ... let me go
> Make it stop, make it stop
> No, no, no ... no ... I can't ... I can't, don't make me, I don't want to
> It's all my fault, all my fault, please make it stop. I know I did wrong. Oh, please make it stop and I'll never, never again.
> Please, please, please, no ... not that, not that, I'll do anything
> No more, please, no more
> I want to die! I want to die! Make it stop, make it stop, I want to die!
> Kill me!"
>
> I can't be the only one who thinks there is more to this than random ravings of a potion/poison drinker? Is this snippets of the argument that DD had with Snape (overheard, partially, by Hagrid)? Or snippets of a conversation between DD and Snape after Snape realized what LV was going to do with the prophecy information?
>
> DD says Snape is truly remorseful about what LV was going to do with the prophecy info and that the incident was the 'greatest regret of his life.' (HBP 513 Can Ed) While I truly can't see Snape grovelling in such a way, being told that to repay this debt he would have to return to the DE's as a spy (No I don't want to I don't want to let me go), wanting to die to make the remose stop. Wanted someone in the room (DD, ?) to kill him so he would no longer have to feel the pain of what he'd done? James calling him a coward, because he didn't want to go back to the DE's as a spy, because he was too cowardly - wanted to die - intead of living with what he had done? It would explain his reaction to Harry calling him a coward, just after Harry saying "Kill me then, kill me like you killed him you coward."
>
> Random thoughts from a Bibbering Humdinger....
>
> CathyD
> DuffyPoo
digger:
I assumed when I read this passage that DD was reliving the magical
torture that Tom Riddle subjected the little children to in the cave. In
other words, its Tom Riddles memory of why the cave is so significant to
him.
digger
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