Snape's AK Failed!!! with other comments

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 134328

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "smartone564" 
<smartone56441070 at a...> wrote:
> First of all, I'm glad it's now 1 a.m. and I can post again, though 
I 
> don't imagine using up any more of my posts in the near future.
> 
> Secondly, and the important stuff, is... SNAPE'S AK ATTACK ON 
> DUMBLEDORE WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.  For evidence, I recall the deaths 
we 
> have seen from AKs: Cedric, the three Riddles, the Riddle's 
gardener 
> (GoF), and DD.  I exclude the Potters and others because we don't 
> have accurate after-the-fact accounts.  In the first three cases, 
> five deaths, all victims were completely unharmed.  In fact, the 
> Muggle police examined the Riddles and found nothing wrong with 
> them.  Cedric and the Gardener (whose name escapes me) instantly 
> dropped dead.  DD was blasted from the top of the Astronomy tower.  
> Wait, excuse me?  All the others were completely unharmed by the 
> spell, except for the simple fact that they died, instantly.  DD, 
on 
> the other hand, recieved a massive trauma and was thrown outward, 
and 
> then dropped to the ground.  This leads me to believe that Snape 
was 
> unable to form a proper AK spell, because he honestly did not want 
> to.  Since we know that unsuccessful spells usually only make a 
> partial effect, think about the numerous Transfiguration classes, 
> Snape did not have what was required to kill DD.  We know that 
> someone must hate and want to cause pain for a Crucio spell to 
work, 
> and I believe that the other Unforgivables are similar in nature.  
> One must want to control someone else entirely for Impervius to 
work, 
> and for the victim to actually die for the AK.  When fake!Moody 
> encouraged the class to use AK spells on him, he said he expected 
no 
> more than a nose bleed.  Since Snape is much more powerful, and 
> NEEDED DD to die (even if he didn't want it), he caused 
considerably 
> more damage.  

<snipped>

I've heard this argument before and I don't buy it. I think you are 
overthinking things.  Te bolt struck DD and he merely fell backwards 
once his body when limp.  the muscles relaxed in death and his body 
just slipped.  Occam's Razor.
 
> Many people dislike the seemingly sudden relationship between Harry 
> and Ginny, but it's not so surprising and far-fetched.  Ginny has 
> become increasingly important and part of the group, ever since she 
> hid behind Mrs. Weasley at the train station in SS/PS, to he CoS 
> involvement (key player, but minor in book), to MoM/DA, etc.  I 
think 
> it's wonderful how JK managed to slowly increase her importance 
> throughout all the books, and land her in one of the few logical 
> relationships left, unless you H/Hr's want to leave Ginny and Ron 
out 
> in the cold.  Of course..... ew, no, that stops there.

I don't see it as logical. I see the ship as creepy freudian 
shippiness with a boring female character. *lavender* is more 
interesting than Ginny at this point. There is all sorts of symbolism 
and no chemistry in their relationship. It's sterile and lacks heat 
and passion.
 
> Finally, some of you thought suddenly falling for Ginny is very 
> unlikely.  Some of you are also not quite the same age as Harry 
> anymore, are you?  I happen to be 18, and had a girl in four of my 
> classes at school, when suddenly, after six months, I crushed on 
> (fell for, whatever you want to call it) her, for no reason.  It 
can 
> happen.

two points. First of all, sudden changes in level of attraction 
usually happen when the status quo changes. for example, I fell for a 
friend of mine that I would never have thought I could develop 
feelings for. Then she came back from college one summer and bam--
romantic summer fling. T change, she took of surfing, dropped a fifty 
pounds, and got abs like a fitness model. there wasn't any changes in 
appearance or any other real changes with Ginny. Harry didn't develop 
feelings for her until more than a year after she got more confident 
around him. Way too long.  And I don't buy subconcious attraction. we 
live in Harry's head and Harry's point of view. We knew the second 
Harry was attracted to every other crush he had in the series, to 
pull some kind of sudden mystery attraction on us is bad form--not to 
mention poor writing.

second point, while sudden attractions happen in real life, when we 
are dealing with the main character of a long standing series we need 
this thing called foreshadowing and considering how many people 
shipped Harry with someone other than Ginny, JKR did a pretty bad job 
of it.

phoenixgod2000