Snape's AK Failed!!! with other comments

[phoenixgod2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 134339

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mad_maxime" <mad_maxime at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "phoenixgod2000" 
<jmrazo at h...>
> wrote:
> > phoenixgod wrote:
> 
> > Second point, while 
> > sudden attractions happen in real life, when we are dealing with 
the 
> > main character of a long standing series we need this thing 
called 
> > foreshadowing and considering how many people shipped Harry with 
> > someone other than Ginny, JKR did a pretty bad job of it.
> > 
> > phoenixgod2000
> 
> Max responds:
> 
> I certainly agree there could have been more exposition leading up 
to
> the big monster rearing his head, but there was *enough* 
foreshadowing
> to make it seem believable, imo. And I am most definitely not a
> shipper, though I've enjoyed reading some of the debates.
> 
> To me it is not important how many people shipped or didn't ship 
H/G
> (though I believe H/G has a large following). What is more 
important
> is who did readers feel Harry would actually end up with 
(regardless
> of their particular preference). In poll after poll Ginny won, 
hands
> down. Lucky guess?. . . I think not. Sounds like there was enough
> foreshadowing to me. :)

Ginny wins those polls because people like the symmetry of H/G not 
the character of Ginny or 'foreshadowing'. People like the idea of 
Harry rescuing his LI from the big bad monster. They like that Harry 
(who looks just like his dad) has a gf that is just like his mom 
(red head and all). It can't be about the actual character of Ginny 
because the people who shipped Ginny with Harry when she was a shy, 
tongue tied girl are still shipping her with Harry now that she is a 
spunky power ranger.  The girl's are totally different. How can they 
both be his perfect girl? the answer is that they can't be. It's not 
about Ginny the character, its about what Ginny represents, which is 
symmetry in the life story of Harry Potter. Some people like it, I 
happen to think it is bizzare.  If Luna Lovegood had been the 
redheaded girl in the story she would have been the one everyone 
would have voted for, because the symmetry would then be tied to 
her. There really isn't much to the actual character of Ginny. She's 
just an amalgam of various Weasley traits in a boring Gryffindor 
package. Aside from her amusingly pathological fear of talking 
books, Ginny is a remarkably shallow character. There just isn't 
much to her. Nothing that would indicate the sort of connection that 
Harry supposedly feels for her by the end of the book. The only part 
of the story with any spark between Harry and Ginny is in their 
breakup scene. But since we saw almost nothing of them together, or 
any scenes that showed how Harry became so invested in her, it rang 
hollow. A breakup scene between two people you hardly see together 
isn't all that stiring.

Sometimes I wonder if JKR sees a different character than the one 
she is putting to paper.  She talks about how Ginny is a powerful 
witch in the mugglenet interview, something that she thinks is 
evident through events in the books, but I don't see it.  When has 
Ginny ever done anything extraordinarily magical? She talks about 
Harry and Ginny being equals in HBP but where is that? How can she 
be the equal of the story's hero? What has she done to be given that 
mantle?

Harry/Ginny shipping is not about Ginny. It hasn't ever been really 
about Ginny. How can it be when Ginny's true nature is such a recent 
revelation? 

It's about one thing.  She's a redhead he rescued from the big bad 
monster.  

phoenixgod2000, who wishes Luna could have been a redhead because 
that would actually have been interesting. 

Ahh, well. There will always be fan fiction