Horcruxes and The Cave

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No: HPFGUIDX 134388

Vivamus said:
> Candidates for the seven HCs as I see it would be (although there *might* only be six):
1. Riddle's diary (confirmed and destroyed)
2. Slytherin's ring (confirmed and destroyed)
3. Hufflepuff's cup
4. Ravenclaw's locket (confirmed, and probably the one that was in GP,
stolen by Regulus)
5. Gryffindor's _________ (sword? hat? something new? tomb?  bones? <

EstherS says:
Although DD is quite specific about the other Horcruxes there is a vagueness about the Gryffindor artefact.

If I take a wild theory and run with I would say that LV killed James to create the split and Lily as the Horcrux. That is why when Lily protected Harry he also got the piece of LVs soul. Then when LV tried to AK him and the curse backfired  Harry also got some of LVs soul including the ability to speak Parcel tongue.

Brothergib said:
> I have wondered if the 'look of triumph' in Dumbledore's eyes, is the fact that Voldemort had taken part of his soul back from Harry when he reincarnated. Perhaps this release Harry from the need to die to defeat Voldemort. <

EstherS says:
I think DD knew this meant Harry lost Lilys love protection  (LV could now touch him) but he had also been relieved of the piece of LVs soul. Harry still has the abilities given him through LV trying to AK him: he is still a Parcelmouth.

To me the liquid in the cave seems to be some kind of drinkable memory, everytime DD takes a drinks he sees more of the memory.
The memory sounds like someone been tortured by the Cruiciatus curse to force them into killing someone until the torturer loses patience and decides to do the deed themselves with the torturee begging to be killed instead.

Wanda said:
> ...what if Dumbledore became a Horcrux in the course of Book 6....  What if the Horcrux wasn't the locket at the bottom of the chalice, but the potion itself? If the only way of removing the potion to reach the locket was to drink it, then the drinker would end up taking into himself Voldemort's soul-fragment... the only way of destroying the soul-fragment would be for the carrier to die, and who would agree to his own death? <

EstherS says:
This was a totally new idea and IMHO an inspiration.
If it is true I believe DD knew this beforehand and was worried that the potion might cause him to tell Harry the truth which is why he made Harry swear to carry out the mission whatever.
It also gives Snape an ironclad reason for killing him on the spot.
Logically the memory would be of the person murdered in order to create the Horcrux.

EstherS
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