HPB writing/ Snape Timeline/ poor Lupin, and some other replies

templar1112002 templar1112002 at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 23 16:35:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 134397

>heather:
>5. The Gryffindor rubies spilled all over the floor, glistening like
blood. Hogwarts itself is bleeding. Love that.
 
> Christina:
> I loved this part, just because there's so many different ways you 
can look at the symbolism of it.  When I first read it, I saw it as 
the granting of hundreds of symbolic "house points" to all of the 
Gryffindors fighting up in the tower, and a last tribute to the 
greatest Gryffindor of them all...Dumbledore *sniffle*
> 
> I like the way JKR sneaks in references to Gryffindor in times of 
trouble...she did it at the end of OotP also, in Dumbledore's 
office...(US OotP 840): "The sun had risen fully now.  Dumbledore's 
office was bathed in it.  The glass case in which the sword of 
Godric Gryffindor resided gleamed white and opaque..." Such lovely 
writing.


**Marcela now: I'm going to go further into symbology here.

Isn't it interesting that in GoF things looked very *black* and 
ominous and then in OoPT Sirius *Black* died, thus corresponding to 
the Nigredo stage in Alchemy, with Harry getting completely 'burnt 
into charcoal black' with all the events he had to go through. 
Toward the end, he's done with his 'physical' attachment stage.  

Then, as you pointed out Christina, toward the end of OoTP we are in 
*Albus* Dumbledore's office, Gryffindor's sword is was gleaming 
*white*, and in HBP we got a lot of Dumbledore, with a Harry that is 
more matured and in control of his emotions, more resigned and 
accepting of his fate, more 'in tune' with Albus (he was 
Dumbledore's man through and through), and... Albus died.  This 
corresponds to the Albedo stage in Alchemy, which is 
the 'consciousness' stage. Interestingly, Harry's inner voice didn't 
sound like Hermione's anymore.  Harry finally became his own man at 
the end of HBP, he made up his mind that he would not return to 
Hogwarts, etc.

Lastly, in Alchemy the final stage to reach the Philosopher's stone 
is the Rubedo.  As Heather pointed out above, we got that image of 
Gryffindor's rubies spilled on the floor (and I would add the blood 
of Bill Weasley too, a family associated with Red since the very 
beginning).  So, I'd say that in the next book we'll find a Harry 
that's already above his physical and conscious planes, he'll get in 
contact with his spiritual self.  Not for nothing he'll be hunting 
for Voldemort's souls.  He'll be a true Seeker finally, not just 
playing Quidditch.  Who'll die then?  Someone associated with Red = 
Rubeus Hagrid? A Weasley?

Marcela







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