SHIP Ginny and Harry (was:Re: Snape's AK Failed!!! with other comments)

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 23 21:33:41 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 134439

> >>Phoenixgod:
> <snip>
> Second point, while sudden attractions happen in real life, when  
> we are dealing with the main character of a long standing series   
> we need this thing called foreshadowing and considering how many   
> people shipped Harry with someone other than Ginny, JKR did a     
> pretty bad job of it.
 
> >>Max:
> <snip>
> What is more important is who did readers feel Harry would        
> actually end up with (regardless of their particular preference). 
> In poll after poll Ginny won, hands down. Lucky guess?. . . I     
> think not. Sounds like there was enough foreshadowing to me. :)

> >>Phoenixgod:
> Ginny wins those polls because people like the symmetry of H/G not 
> the character of Ginny or 'foreshadowing'. People like the idea of 
> Harry rescuing his LI from the big bad monster. They like that     
> Harry (who looks just like his dad) has a gf that is just like his 
> mom (red head and all).

Betsy Hp:
I don't think the polls were all reflecting what people *wanted* to 
happen, but what they thought would *actually* happen.  And frankly, 
I think JKR made it fairly clear, from the first introduction of 
Ginny in PS/SS that she was designed to be Harry's love interest.  
And while it took a while for Harry to even *see* Ginny as a girl, 
he noticed her enough to note her eye color. Something that doesn't 
happen with any of the other Weasley's, IIRC.

You may not like the ship (I say politely knowing full well you 
loath it <g>) but I don't think you're giving JKR, or her readers 
enough credit.  It's not because Ginny looks like Lily.  (Does Ginny 
look like Lily?  Red hair isn't enough, IMO.  No one accuses Luna of 
being a Petunia stand-in.)  And frankly, Harry is rather clearly 
more his mother's son, than his father's.  If we were going with 
parental symmmetry, Harry would end up with Draco, IMO. <eg>

There's an essay that points out quite well, IMO, the foreshadowing 
of the Harry/Ginny ship, written by... erm... Ginny Weasley (heh).  
It's actually part 2 of a pretty strongly worded argument against 
the more militant Harry/Hermione shippers, so read it with caution.  
But the canon is incredibly solid.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginny_weasley/4192.html#cutid1

> >>Phoenixgod:
> It can't be about the actual character of Ginny because the people 
> who shipped Ginny with Harry when she was a shy, tongue tied girl 
> are still shipping her with Harry now that she is a spunky power  
> ranger.  The girl's are totally different. How can they both be   
> his perfect girl? the answer is that they can't be.

Betsy Hp:
Or the answer is that those who wrote early fanfic of Harry/Ginny 
really didn't get Ginny's character.  I, honestly, *hated* the shy, 
tongue-tied version of Ginny featured in so much fanfic.  I much 
prefer JKR's Ginny.  She's a bit of a bitch, but Harry's a bit of a 
bastard, so I think they're well suited.  Frankly, (and I may well 
be in the minority) I loved the way Ginny looked just before Harry 
kissed her in HBP.  She was like a warrior, IMO.  And especially 
since she brought about a Gryffindor victory while Harry was absent 
from the pitch, I think she's been foreshadowed (heh) to be like 
wives of old and keep the homefires burning while Harry goes on his 
scavenger hunt.  (And yes, to keep the fortress safe, one *does* 
need to be a warrior.  If Hogwarts does reopen, I imagine Ginny and 
Neville and Luna will do their part to keep it out of Voldemort's 
hands.)

Which means I disagree with the "Spiderman" descriptor used for 
Harry and Ginny's scene at Dumbledore's funeral.  While Peter Parker 
was keeping MaryJane in the dark to keep her safe, Ginny knows 
exactly who Harry is and what he will be doing.  If anything, they 
parallel the, "Go get'em, Tiger," of the second Spiderman film.

Betsy Hp






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