Dumbledore as Secret Keeper

[KathyK]

No: HPFGUIDX 134617

Chris (flowerchild4) wrote:
 
>> As you stated, the Fidelius Charm is now defunct.  The Order is 
going to need another secret keeper ASAP!  Sirius' father made the 
house unplottable (OOtP p115 AmEd.) so it is still protected by 
that.  However, Snape knows where it is and I'm sure any member of 
the extended Black family would also know.  So the Order really 
needs to find a new secret keeper!<<

KathyK:

I know I already brought this up in my last message on the subject, 
but what is the significance of this "immensely complex" charm, if 
all it takes to break the thing is a well-placed Avada Kedavra?  Why 
use it at all?  It'll keep people out while the SK lives, but if the 
SK is found out, it's all over.  

Repeating myself, but there *has* to be more to it than this.  Yes, 
no one else can reveal the secret while there exists a SK, but I 
don't see how it protects at all if it expires upon the death of the 
Secret-Keeper.  Presumably, some of the folks who are in on the 
secret would be able to give it up if the Charm breaks.  They could 
tell others *who* the SK is, even if they can't reveal the Secret 
itself.  It seems a poor protection.  

The big deal that was made about the Fidelius in PoA particularly, 
and in OoP also, makes me think there's more to it. I think if the 
SK dies, there is at least a grace period before the charm expires.  
As Yolanda Carroll just pointed out to me in Chat, Sirius mentions 
in OoP that his father made 12 Grimmauld Place unplottable.  And 
that seemed to be still working post-mortem.  Perhaps there are 
some charms and spells so powerful that they are not broken by mere 
death.

Then again in HBP, Dumbledore also mentions he's made GP 
unplottable.  Though I wonder whether there was a difference in the 
focus of their charms, and whether that makes a difference.  Sirius 
says the house is Unplottable to keep muggles away.  I infer from 
what Dumbledore says that his Unplottable spell was meant to keep 
away the likes of Bellatrix Lestrange and other Black family members 
from finding the house.  Is there a difference?   Does the Fidelius 
override both these things?  Do they override them?  Does death take 
precedence over all?

Chris:

>> I think it would be best if they used Harry as secret keeper for 
two reasons; 1. It's his house now and 2. If Harry dies the Order is 
in deep trouble anyway.<<

KathyK:

Yes, but no one knows about the Prophecy or the Horcruxes.  Why make 
a teenage boy LV is targeting even more of a target..thinking as an 
order member.  And for that matter, who is brave enough to fill in 
Dumbledore's shoes?

KathyK, wishing for more information on Fidelius