Sparing Lily (was: JKR's answer to "Was Snape ever loved?")/Re: Horcrux possibility

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 134802

Cheryl said: "I thought the one who would never return was Karkaroff, who was 
killed, as LV said he would be.  I think it is clear now that Snape 
was the "faithful servant at Hogwarts" (though I am in the camp that 
thinks Snape is still on the good side, depite appearances)."



Funny, I just re-read my notes on this a few minutes ago.  There are six missing Death Eaters in that one space (the graveyard scene in GOF).  Three dead in LV"s service:  Evan Rosier, Wilkes, and ?
One, too cowardly to return, he will pay - Snape
One, who I believe has left me for ever.. he will be killed, of course (and was)  - Karkaroff
And one, who remains my most faithful servant, and who has already re-entered my service - Barty Crouch, Jr.

Snape, himself, cleared up the one too cowardly to return.  He didn't return to LV's side, he said, for two hours, on DD's orders (remember, in the Hospital Wing, after DD asked him if he was prepared to do what DD needed him to do?). 

I don't think it matters here which one Snape or Karkaroff fit into.  Except it works well that 'he will pay' - forcing Snape into a position to make an Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa - is better payback than simply being murdered, as Karkaroff was.

Barty, Jr. had stupefied poor old Mad-Eye Moody and kept him locked in a trunk for 9 months, murdered his own father to get him out of the way and prevent him talking to DD, and made Harry's working through the maze easier by getting things out of his way.  He was making sure Harry made it first to the Portkey to be transported directly to LV.  Crouch, Jr. didn't end up in the graveyard scene because it would have been too suspicious if he had left the Hogwarts grounds that night.  

That's my take on it, anyway.

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-Isis said: "I don't have my books with me right now, but isn't there supposed to
be a snake on the locket (at least the one that Voldemort allegedly
made into a Horcrux?  I can't remember, but was the locket that
wouldn't open (in OOTP) described as having a snake on it?  That seems
to be a defining point, and I can't see it being left out of the
description... I still think that it is pretty coincidental that this
was there, so I'm leaning towards it being the locket in question..."

The locket was described as having a snake on it in the pensive scene between Riddle/LV and Hepzibah Smith.  There was no snake mentioned in the initial description of the locket "'See this?' he bellowed at Ogden, shaking a heavy gold locket at him, while Merope spluttered and gasped for breath"  

The locket, in OotP was described as "a heavy locket that none of them could open."  I don't think they were always looking at things that closely just binning the stuff.  The locket won't open, bin it.  Besides, every blessed thing in that house had a snake on it so it wouldn't have been a notable to them if there was one on the locket, as well.  At that point of the process, they would hardly have made note of another snake.  Sirius hadn't been in the house for a long time and wouldn't have recognized it - or, more to the point I guess, not recognized it.  It had only been a few hours before when Sirius said "Come on, Harry, haven't you seen enough of this house to tell what kind of wizards my family were?" and, upon entering the house initially, Harry thought the house looked like it belonged to the Darkest of wizards with the snake candelabra and chandelier, etc..  

Now, just to find out whether Kreacher has pocketed it or Mundungus. And if Dung had it, what did he do with it?  And why, when "He was banned from the Hog's Head twenty years ago and that barman's got a long memory," were he and that particular barman conversing outside the Three Broomsticks?  


CathyD
DuffyPoo




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