Clues Convergent Redux
colebiancardi
muellem at bc.edu
Tue Jul 26 14:35:38 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 135011
tinglinger wrote:
After reading a couple of thousand posts(yes, that many, since I have
read virtually all the posts in HPFGU since right before OOP came out)
saying how WONDERFUL Snape really is -
how truly misunderstood he is -
how pure of heart he is -
how he would NEVER hurt a non-airborne fly! ----
despite all evidence in the books to the contrary
despite the duplicity
despite his aiding and abetting a more competent and lethal squad of
death eaters entering Hogwarts - especially that loveable ol'Fennir
Greyback who would like nothing more than to crunch and munch as many
students as he possibly could..... {why, i'm just FEELIN' the luv for
poor old misunderstood Sevvy for THAT ...}
despite AKing Dumbledore (for whatever reason and please don't talk
about assisted suicide without a foot of parchment of proof for that
theory indicating how the wizarding community is best served with DD
gone)
despite his willingness to have the dementors suck out the souls of
Lupin and Sirius without listening to their pleas
despite never showing the slightest inkling to act with fairness or
patience for anyone but DD or Slytherin House Students ....
I now hereby challenge anyone and everyone who is under the delusion
(hey, if Harry/Hermione shippers can take it, then surely the kinder
and gentler Snape defenders can) that Snape is indeed misunderstood
to write a canon based summary that demonstrates just how dear ol'
Severus is NOT the evil betraying snivelly turd that he has
demonstrated himself to be by each and every one of his actions since
the series started.
Colebiancardi now:
I have never stated that Snape was a good-hearted man so your
assumptions of my opinion of Snape's character are WAY OFF. I have
always thought he was a nasty bastard, but he is batting for the
right team. You need to relax You can believe your theory if you
wish to, but I have one that I like better. Before I jump into it,
other posters have given "clues" to my theory on why Snape deserted
the DE's, became DD's trusted man and why he still is a nasty bastard
to Harry.
Tonks wrote:
When Snape finds out that LV is going to kill James and Snape has a
life debit to James, this scares Snape. There is some serious bad,
bad magic that happen when you have a life debit to someone and then
that person is killed because of something that you have done. It
may be some sort of a cursed life, like one gets from drinking the
blood of a unicorn.
Roberta wrote:
Incidentally, in GoF, Dumbledore states that the reason for his trust
of Snape is between him and Snape--i.e. none of Harry's business.
This too suggests that there is more to it than Snape's repentance
over betraying Harry's parents, which *is* Harry's business.
Caro wrote:
Then later Regulus himself discovered what Voldemort was up to and
then stole the Horcrux, brought it home and went underground by
feigning death. Then he could have tried to reveal himself by using
this mockery for himself and pretending to be Sirius so that he will
hopefully read this article. Only his brother would recognize it.
Colebiancardi back again:
Ok. We know that Regulus is Sirius's younger brother and that he was
in the house of Slytherin, which happens to be Snape's house as
well. Since it has been stressed upon the readers that your house is
like your family, I am going to assume that Snape KNEW Regulus, even
though he may have been a year or two younger than Snape. What else
do we know? Regulus died in 1980 the family tree stated in OotP
that Regulus died 15 years earlier, which makes in 1980, if OotP is
in 1995. We also know that Snape in 1980, heard overheard the
prophecy and it was a cold, wet day so either late winter, spring
or late fall of 1980. At this time Snape was still working for LV.
Since Regulus died in 1980, he was also in the DE's at that time. We
do know that Snape turned and became a spy for DD sometime AFTER he
heard the prophecy and BEFORE James & Lily died. He did not turn
after their deaths so that could not have been the reason why he
turned. He was already working for DD at that time. Snape became
Potions Master in 1981, as in OotP, when questioned by Umbridge, we
discover he has been the Potions Master for 14 years.
So, what could have turned Snape sometime between 1980 and 1981? My
theory: Regulus Black, if he is RAB, cannot be discounted. How did
Snape become a DE if he is half-blood, as LV seems intent to have a
pure-blood wizarding community? Could it be that not only was LV
impressed by Snape's dark arts mastery, but that Snape had
connections with two of the biggest pure-blood families in town:
Malfoy who probably recruited Snape and the Black family. Snape
probably recruited Regulus, as if he needed any encouragement. What
a bonus for Snape, as Sirius is one of the people he HATES the most
and here is Snape, friends with Regulus and also a fellow DE. Did
Snape become a "brother figure" to Regulus? It is quite possible.
And it gives Sirius another reason to hate Snape.
Regulus was killed, according to Sirius, by Voldemort or more likely
(in Sirius's words), another Death Eater. If RAB is Regulus, and he
was killed by another DE, does that mean that Regulus was dying, due
to the potion? If so, would Regulus go to the man he viewed as
family, Snape, who is also an accomplished potions master? Who could
have prevented his death? Did Regulus tell Snape what Voldemort was
up to, with the horcruxs and if Snape knew of the prophecy at this
time, what did Snape think of this?
3 possibilities:
1. Snape gave Regulus a potion to reverse the effects of the poison
and told him to get out of dodge. Voldemort then sent a DE to
dispatch of Regulus.
2. Snape does not give the cure to Regulus, but lets him die
3. Repeat Number 1 and instead of an unnamed DE, it is Snape whom
Voldemort sends to kill Regulus.
Regardless if it Snape or not that killed Regulus, Snape knew
something horrid was coming down. Snape is not a pure-blood and now
Regulus, a pure-blood, has been killed by another DE which cannot
be a comforting thought to Snape. Snape understands clearly now what
Voldemort is up too, with the prophecy & now the horcruxes, and
realizes his days are numbered hey, I didn't say that Snape still
doesn't look out for his own neck he is a Slytherin, after all.
Snape knows the only chance for survival for himself and the world as
he knows it, is to turn to Dumbledore and become a spy. We know he
did this before October 31st, 1981.
Snape turns his back on Voldemort & the DeathEaters because of what
he sees internally within the DE camp; not any external forces
outside of it. He sees that a pure-blood like Regulus can be killed
and if Snape was the one who had to kill Regulus, that could have
affected him in ways that showed DD that Snape was truly against
Voldemort and Voldemort's plans for the wizard community and
muggles. That is why Roberta's comment of "Incidentally, in GoF,
Dumbledore states that the reason for his trust of Snape is between
him and Snape--i.e. none of Harry's business. This too suggests that
there is more to it than Snape's repentance over betraying Harry's
parents, which *is* Harry's business" is important to note.
Even if RAB is not Regulus, the fact that he was killed by another DE
is important to note. All of what I have written, with the exception
of Snape knowing the horcruxes, could still play out.
Now, why was Snape remorseful about James' & Lily's deaths? See
Tonk's comment about Snape's life-debt to James. Why is Snape a
nasty bastard to Harry? Well, DD even stated that - Snape hasn't let
go of the memories of being tormented by James - and as we have found
out - they did GANG up on Snape - 4 to 1. Not a very mature reason
to hate Harry, but Harry looks just like James and I am sure that has
to grate on Snape's nerves everytime he sees him.
Now my theory may be a leaky as a sieve, but it is no more leaky than
the Snape loves Lily theory actually, I think mine is more water-
tight :) And I like mine better, as it shows that Snape left the
DE's, as he began to see them for what they really were not just
folks who liked to play with Dark Arts, but evil people who wanted to
wipe out a race of people.
colebiancardi
(hoping that she didn't waste her 1st post and is curious if anyone
else is thinking about this theory)
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