Clues Convergent Redux
colebiancardi
muellem at bc.edu
Tue Jul 26 23:56:08 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 135111
doesn't anyone want to read/remark on my theory? I feel so unloved....
colebiancardi
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/135011
reposting, as it is her second post for the day......I've added a 4th
possiblity, as well.
Since Regulus is a "hot" topic, I thought I was onto something here :(
> Colebiancardi now:
> Before I jump into it,
> other posters have given "clues" to my theory on why Snape deserted
> the DE's, became DD's trusted man and why he still is a nasty bastard
> to Harry.
>
> Tonks wrote:
>
> When Snape finds out that LV is going to kill James and Snape has a
> life debit to James, this scares Snape. There is some serious bad,
> bad magic that happen when you have a life debit to someone and then
> that person is killed because of something that you have done. It
> may be some sort of a cursed life, like one gets from drinking the
> blood of a unicorn.
>
>
> Roberta wrote:
>
> Incidentally, in GoF, Dumbledore states that the reason for his trust
> of Snape is between him and Snape--i.e. none of Harry's business.
> This too suggests that there is more to it than Snape's repentance
> over betraying Harry's parents, which *is* Harry's business.
>
> Caro wrote:
> Then later Regulus himself discovered what Voldemort was up to and
> then stole the Horcrux, brought it home and went underground by
> feigning death. Then he could have tried to reveal himself by using
> this mockery for himself and pretending to be Sirius so that he will
> hopefully read this article. Only his brother would recognize it.
>
> Colebiancardi back again:
>
> Ok. We know that Regulus is Sirius's younger brother and that he was
> in the house of Slytherin, which happens to be Snape's house as
> well. Since it has been stressed upon the readers that your house is
> like your family, I am going to assume that Snape KNEW Regulus, even
> though he may have been a year or two younger than Snape. What else
> do we know? Regulus died in 1980 the family tree stated in OotP
> that Regulus died 15 years earlier, which makes in 1980, if OotP is
> in 1995. We also know that Snape in 1980, heard overheard the
> prophecy and it was a cold, wet day so either late winter, spring
> or late fall of 1980. At this time Snape was still working for LV.
> Since Regulus died in 1980, he was also in the DE's at that time. We
> do know that Snape turned and became a spy for DD sometime AFTER he
> heard the prophecy and BEFORE James & Lily died. He did not turn
> after their deaths so that could not have been the reason why he
> turned. He was already working for DD at that time. Snape became
> Potions Master in 1981, as in OotP, when questioned by Umbridge, we
> discover he has been the Potions Master for 14 years.
>
> So, what could have turned Snape sometime between 1980 and 1981? My
> theory: Regulus Black, if he is RAB, cannot be discounted. How did
> Snape become a DE if he is half-blood, as LV seems intent to have a
> pure-blood wizarding community? Could it be that not only was LV
> impressed by Snape's dark arts mastery, but that Snape had
> connections with two of the biggest pure-blood families in town:
> Malfoy who probably recruited Snape and the Black family. Snape
> probably recruited Regulus, as if he needed any encouragement. What
> a bonus for Snape, as Sirius is one of the people he HATES the most
> and here is Snape, friends with Regulus and also a fellow DE. Did
> Snape become a "brother figure" to Regulus? It is quite possible.
> And it gives Sirius another reason to hate Snape.
>
> Regulus was killed, according to Sirius, by Voldemort or more likely
> (in Sirius's words), another Death Eater. If RAB is Regulus, and he
> was killed by another DE, does that mean that Regulus was dying, due
> to the potion? If so, would Regulus go to the man he viewed as
> family, Snape, who is also an accomplished potions master? Who could
> have prevented his death? Did Regulus tell Snape what Voldemort was
> up to, with the horcruxs and if Snape knew of the prophecy at this
> time, what did Snape think of this?
>
> 3 possibilities:
> 1. Snape gave Regulus a potion to reverse the effects of the poison
> and told him to get out of dodge. Voldemort then sent a DE to
> dispatch of Regulus.
> 2. Snape does not give the cure to Regulus, but lets him die
> 3. Repeat Number 1 and instead of an unnamed DE, it is Snape whom
> Voldemort sends to kill Regulus.
added in new 4th possiblity(if Regulus is still alive)
4. Regulus goes to Snape, dying from the potion he just drank. Snape
gives him the antidote. LV tells Snape to kill Regulus. Snape cannot -
Regulus is like a brother to him. Instead, Snape takes Regulus to
Dumbledore and Dumbledore now hides Regulus. Snape has now become DD's
spy the moment he took Regulus to DD. Snape returns to LV and tells LV
that he killed Regulus. So, how did DD managed to hide Regulus? Don't
know - but when DD is talking to Draco and telling him he(DD) can
protect & hide Draco - Draco states that LV will kill him. DD says
something very strange at this point...You cannot be killed if you are
already dead...
>
>
> Regardless if it Snape or not that killed Regulus, Snape knew
> something horrid was coming down. Snape is not a pure-blood and now
> Regulus, a pure-blood, has been killed by another DE which cannot
> be a comforting thought to Snape. Snape understands clearly now what
> Voldemort is up too, with the prophecy & now the horcruxes, and
> realizes his days are numbered hey, I didn't say that Snape still
> doesn't look out for his own neck he is a Slytherin, after all.
> Snape knows the only chance for survival for himself and the world as
> he knows it, is to turn to Dumbledore and become a spy. We know he
> did this before October 31st, 1981.
>
> Snape turns his back on Voldemort & the DeathEaters because of what
> he sees internally within the DE camp; not any external forces
> outside of it. He sees that a pure-blood like Regulus can be killed
> and if Snape was the one who had to kill Regulus, that could have
> affected him in ways that showed DD that Snape was truly against
> Voldemort and Voldemort's plans for the wizard community and
> muggles. That is why Roberta's comment of "Incidentally, in GoF,
> Dumbledore states that the reason for his trust of Snape is between
> him and Snape--i.e. none of Harry's business. This too suggests that
> there is more to it than Snape's repentance over betraying Harry's
> parents, which *is* Harry's business" is important to note.
>
> Even if RAB is not Regulus, the fact that he was killed by another DE
> is important to note. All of what I have written, with the exception
> of Snape knowing the horcruxes, could still play out.
>
> Now, why was Snape remorseful about James' & Lily's deaths? See
> Tonk's comment about Snape's life-debt to James. Why is Snape a
> nasty bastard to Harry? Well, DD even stated that - Snape hasn't let
> go of the memories of being tormented by James - and as we have found
> out - they did GANG up on Snape - 4 to 1. Not a very mature reason
> to hate Harry, but Harry looks just like James and I am sure that has
> to grate on Snape's nerves everytime he sees him.
>
> Now my theory may be a leaky as a sieve, but it is no more leaky than
> the Snape loves Lily theory actually, I think mine is more water-
> tight :) And I like mine better, as it shows that Snape left the
> DE's, as he began to see them for what they really were not just
> folks who liked to play with Dark Arts, but evil people who wanted to
> wipe out a race of people.
>
> colebiancardi
>
> (hoping that she didn't waste her 1st post and is curious if anyone
> else is thinking about this theory)
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