Dumbledore in HBP. Was: Re: Snape's Other Victims

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> Phoenixgod2000:
> 
> > 
> > I've been thinking about this while I reread select parts of HBP 
> and I 
> > have to say that this is the one part of the book where I think 
DD 
> > lets me down. I find it absolutely amazing (and infuriating) that 
> DD 
> > who has always insisted on Harry giving Snape respect when he 
knows 
> > that Snape is the person who set in motion the events that left 
> Harry 
> > an orphan. It seems to that is a slap in the face towards Harry 
and 
> > his loss. And when Harry comes to him in righteous anger he 
> completely 
> > dismisses Harry's feelings.


Lupinlore:
> Yes, that does open a can of worms, doesn't it?  JKR just seems to 
> have a very hard time finding stable ground for Dumbledore when it 
> comes to immense pain that has been afflicted on Harry (partly 
> through his own decisions).  He seems cold and lacking in 
compassion 
> at the end of OOTP, outraged at the Dursleys at the beginning of 
HBP, 
> and then dismissive at the end of HBP.  Meanwhile, on other boards, 
> the whole "DD softening Harry up at the Dursleys" is gaining ground 
> again.  Round and round we go.
> 
> Obviously there is more to go (the hesitant moment that DD has when 
> he seems about to tell Harry something). And JKR has said we will 
> learn some more about DD (although how much is open to doubt). What 
> will be revealed I don't dare guess.  But once again, Dumbledore 
> seems like someone has cast a Plotus Devicium spell on him.
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Alla:

Erm... sorry, but softening Harry up for what? Just as youself, I was 
quite mad at Dumbledore at the end of OOP, or more like I was annoyed 
with JKR for failing to convey ( to me only  of course)  the depth of 
Dumbledore's remorse for his treatment of Harry in his final speech.

I think she conveyed it quite clearly in HBP, personally  AND 
Dumbledore was back to his normal self, IMO.

I was thrilled at how Dumbledore dealt with Dursleys, I was also 
incredibly happy that he did not say a word of "Harry needing to be 
away from WW crap" as reason for leaving him with Dursleys.

When I read abou " chill, emanating from DD" when he talked to them, 
I had no doubt that he was ... well, incredibly angry.

I was also delighted that he called how they treated Harry "neglect 
and cruelty" and did not ... try to justify anything.

Right, I also felt that she dealt very effectively with Puppetmaster!
Dumbledore, because not once during their lessons had I doubted that 
Dumbledore was concerned with Harry's survival just as much or even 
more than disposing WW of Voldemort.


Oh, going back to the initial issue. YES, Albus could have been less 
dismissive of Harry's feelings towards Snape, because as I said 
earlier I feel that Snape could never, ever repay Harry what he owes 
him.

BUT I look at it this way. If Albus was wrong to trust Snape, he paid 
for it with his life . When I think about his last minutes, betrayed 
by the person he trusted so much, I want to cry for him.

If Albus was right ( I am only talking about whether Snape on 
Voldemort's side or not) to trust Snape, then him telling Harry that 
Snape  made a mistake goes in character with Albus giving anybody 
second chances, etc.

YES, Harry has every right to be angry at Snape and in light of what 
we discovered I can only share Nora's earlier sentiment about JKR not 
going mutiple fanfictions route and making Harry grovel at Snape's 
feet and do multiple apologies. :-)

Snape has SO much to beg Harry's forgiveness for, IMO.

SO, having said all that, I just cannot bring myself to be angry at 
Dumbledore. He was so wonderful with Harry in this book overall, IMO.

JMO,

Alla.